Esteve Guineueta :
michaelmk86 :
whyso :
No, I think 7850 is the best card that we could expect based on 1) Price 2) power consumption (seriously you think they are going to put a 250 watt 7970 in a ps4? The xbox 360 had a tdp (original) or around 200 watts and had lots of overheating problems. No one seems to get this.)
Also, do you think every pc gamer has a 7850+? The average gpu in the average gamer's system is well below a 7850 (which in the ps4 will be a nice bump up).
If anything, I think the cpu is more worrying. 8 core bobcat is really not that powerful, especially when you consider the processing power kinect/move will require, not to mention that the new console OS will be much heavier than the current ones. I'm more worried about physics and AI, destructible environments, and realism suffering.
Honestly, the ps4 will hold back pc games much less (relatively speaking) than the xbox 360 or ps3 ever did for a couple reasons. First the similar cpu/gpu architectures which will make porting (and adding pc exclusive features like higher textures, AA, and other visual effects much easier).
Not to mention that they will be able to get much better results out of a console than a pc because they can directly code for it. I expect that the gpu in the ps4 will be able to output 7970 quality graphics
Also, do you think every pc gamer has a 7850+? The average gpu in the average gamer's system is well below a 7850 (which in the ps4 will be a nice bump up).
If anything, I think the cpu is more worrying. 8 core bobcat is really not that powerful, especially when you consider the processing power kinect/move will require, not to mention that the new console OS will be much heavier than the current ones. I'm more worried about physics and AI, destructible environments, and realism suffering.
Honestly, the ps4 will hold back pc games much less (relatively speaking) than the xbox 360 or ps3 ever did for a couple reasons. First the similar cpu/gpu architectures which will make porting (and adding pc exclusive features like higher textures, AA, and other visual effects much easier).
Not to mention that they will be able to get much better results out of a console than a pc because they can directly code for it. I expect that the gpu in the ps4 will be able to output 7970 quality graphics
indeed the x86 architectures will be good thing for both ps4 and pc, but what i am saying is that the xbox 360 back then it was essentially a high end pc(more or less), this is not the case with the ps4 now.
I disagree. Back in 2005-2006 there were PC's much faster than xbox 360 so...I don't know why I always have to find these kind of topics around the net. PS4 is to PC's as the PS2 was and also the PS3/360 were, nothing more to say.
January 2004 - 22 months before xbox release there wasn't a GPU setup that could even come close to the xbox performance.
November 2005 - xbox released. (still thee is no pc gpu can beat the xbox gpu)
January 2012 - released a single GPU (HD7970GHz) that performs 2 times better than ps4 GPU.
November 2013 - ps4 released. (22 months late and half the performance).