Psu suggestion 600w

[StanicEnemy]

Im lookin for 600watt psu 80 plus except seasonic,more like cooler master etc,is cooler master good?

 

[jankerson]

You could run a gtx 1080 on a cx450 with a sub 100w CPU EASILY.

Yeah, if you want to burn down your house and burn up your parts.

It wouldn't last very long pushing a GTX 1080....

 

[StanicEnemy]

So Seasonic S12II-620 620W 80+ Bronze Power Supply is the best psu so far?

 

[madmatt30]

^ no risk at all .

http://www.hepsiburada.com/antec-vpf550-ec-550w-120mm-fanli-80-bronze-aktif-pfc-power-supply-p-BD305235

Antec vpf550 , Delta manufactured dc-dc unit , good quality , stupid amount of headroom for a locked i5 & 1050ti.

 

[jankerson]

So Seasonic S12II-620 620W 80+ Bronze Power Supply is the best psu so far?

From the ones you posted so far yes.

 

[jankerson]

^ no risk at all .

http://www.hepsiburada.com/antec-vpf550-ec-550w-120mm-fanli-80-bronze-aktif-pfc-power-supply-p-BD305235

Antec vpf550 , Delta manufactured dc-dc unit , good quality , stupid amount of headroom for a locked i5 & 1050ti.

That's down there with the Green Labeled CX units...

 

[turkey3_scratch]

^ no risk at all .

http://www.hepsiburada.com/antec-vpf550-ec-550w-120mm-fanli-80-bronze-aktif-pfc-power-supply-p-BD305235

Antec vpf550 , Delta manufactured dc-dc unit , good quality , stupid amount of headroom for a locked i5 & 1050ti.

That's down there with the Green Labeled CX units...

No, if anything Delta's like the best OEM, you know you're getting good quality control, soldering, build quality with them. And I don't even see why "green CXs" are a reference point here. Green CXs were always okay, but the group regulated ones weren't that good because they were, well, group regulated. I hope you're not perpetuating those capacitors bogus myths, though.

You posted the Corsair VS and CX Green label units?

Both are barely one step above fire hazard.

The original CX units were actually criticized for not being a fire hazard. Overtemperature protection safely shut down the power supply in testing, so everyone had to immidiately think it can't handle high loads. You don't find OTP on most PSUs as cheap as those CXs were, and PSUs without OTP are most fire hazardous.

 

[madmatt30]

No its not, its tier 3 in that list (which is hopelessly outdated because the bronze rated vpf is newer than that)

 

[turkey3_scratch]

On the other hand, Seasonic S12ii units lack undercurrent protection on the 12V rail and have no overcurrent protection on the minor rails, they have a cheap 8-pin HY-510N protection IC. The S12ii has worse safety than the CXs, yet I keep seeing in this thread stuff about the CX burning down stuff.

Still not personally convinced on the CXM's Quality, but if the OP wants to get one of the new ones (NOT GREEN labeled) then I suppose it might be fine.... I guess...

Power supplies don't need convincing, it's literally a bunch of silicon and copper and metals. Just look at reviews and take the professional's words for it.

 

[madmatt30]

Why the tier list is not a hands down guarantee of what you should/shouldn't buy.

Old model vpf 550 (444w 12v)

https://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/power-supplies/5075-antec-vpf550-strictly-power-550w-power-supply-unit-review?showall=&start=7

Newer model vpf550(540w 12v rail) - & the one I listed

https://www.eteknix.com/antec-strictly-power-vpf550-power-supply-review/

 

[jankerson]

On the other hand, Seasonic S12ii units lack undercurrent protection on the 12V rail and have no overcurrent protection on the minor rails, they have a cheap 8-pin HY-510N protection IC. The S12ii has worse safety than the CXs, yet I keep seeing in this thread stuff about the CX burning down stuff.

Still not personally convinced on the CXM's Quality, but if the OP wants to get one of the new ones (NOT GREEN labeled) then I suppose it might be fine.... I guess...

Power supplies don't need convincing, it's literally a bunch of silicon and copper and metals. Just look at reviews and take the professional's words for it.

Oh I know, but in the back of my head that little voice says not to buy one. But then I normally buy higher quality anyway so they wouldn't be on my personal radar in the 1st place.

 

[jankerson]

^ no risk at all .

http://www.hepsiburada.com/antec-vpf550-ec-550w-120mm-fanli-80-bronze-aktif-pfc-power-supply-p-BD305235

Antec vpf550 , Delta manufactured dc-dc unit , good quality , stupid amount of headroom for a locked i5 & 1050ti.

That's down there with the Green Labeled CX units...

No, if anything Delta's like the best OEM, you know you're getting good quality control, soldering, build quality with them. And I don't even see why "green CXs" are a reference point here. Green CXs were always okay, but the group regulated ones weren't that good because they were, well, group regulated. I hope you're not perpetuating those capacitors bogus myths, though.

You posted the Corsair VS and CX Green label units?

Both are barely one step above fire hazard.

The original CX units were actually criticized for not being a fire hazard. Overtemperature protection safely shut down the power supply in testing, so everyone had to immidiately think it can't handle high loads. You don't find OTP on most PSUs as cheap as those CXs were, and PSUs without OTP are most fire hazardous.

I saw a lot of bad PSU's when I was doing PC repair, burned up units etc so I am VERY careful in what I buy.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

I saw a lot of bad PSU's when I was doing PC repair, burned up units etc so I am VERY careful in what I buy.

You're letting your own experience with fixing up some computers shield you from the fact that you're just spreading misinformation, myths, and FUD about Corsair CX power supplies among other things. I'm just saying, don't let your ego in front of your horse carriage. I get that you're old, you've been on Tomshardware since 2006, but there's a whole lot more to PSUs.

 

[jankerson]

I saw a lot of bad PSU's when I was doing PC repair, burned up units etc so I am VERY careful in what I buy.

You're letting your own experience with fixing up some computers shield you from the fact that you're just spreading misinformation, myths, and FUD about Corsair CX power supplies among other things. I'm just saying, don't let your ego in front of your horse carriage. I get that you're old, you've been on Tomshardware since 2006, but there's a whole lot more to PSUs.

I know, that's why I read the detailed reviews, mostly from Jonny Guru because he tears them apart ETC.

It was a lot more than just some computers..... It was a lot of them...

I am OLD, age wise also, from back before the DOS days hardware wise.

You could say things have changed a little. LOL

I still remember push cards and when PSU's didn't have wattage ratings.

But then everything was insanely expensive back then, prices have come down a lot over the years.

 

[jankerson]

On the other hand, Seasonic S12ii units lack undercurrent protection on the 12V rail and have no overcurrent protection on the minor rails, they have a cheap 8-pin HY-510N protection IC. The S12ii has worse safety than the CXs, yet I keep seeing in this thread stuff about the CX burning down stuff.

We had one lately here on THG, a CX 750 that burned up running an i3 with a GTX 1060, and it was less than a week ago and it wasn't that old from what the OP said.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3520599/power-supply-coil-chared.html

Meanwhile my 2 M12II's are 7+ and 4+ years old and still kicking running 24/7/365.

 

[StanicEnemy]

Guys im not a pro,many people here using cooler master and corsair as a psu,can you please tell me why both brands are crap? Thank you in advice

 

[turkey3_scratch]

What happens to one user on a forum or your 2 power supplies doesn't tmatter when these things are sold by the millions

 

[jankerson]

What happens to one user on a forum or your 2 power supplies doesn't tmatter when these things are sold by the millions

If there is one then there is a strong likelihood there will be more or have been others. That's just going by the percentages. I sure wouldn't want one of them hooked up to my machines if it happened again.

Yeah.

Well back when I bought mine they were one the best around, I went with the reviews and owner experiences etc.

They are still running today so it seems as it worked out.

As time goes on things are improved (Supposedly).

On the Seasonic side:

The M12II is being replaced by the G Series I guess?

The Focus is a new model.

The X-Series is being replaced by the Gold Prime Series, that's what it looks like to me anyway.

 

[jankerson]

Guys im not a pro,many people here using cooler master and corsair as a psu,can you please tell me why both brands are crap? Thank you in advice

There are different grades of power supplies made by both Cooler Master and Corsair.

Some models are basically garbage while others are very good to excellent.

 

[Rexper]

^ no risk at all .

http://www.hepsiburada.com/antec-vpf550-ec-550w-120mm-fanli-80-bronze-aktif-pfc-power-supply-p-BD305235

Antec vpf550 , Delta manufactured dc-dc unit , good quality , stupid amount of headroom for a locked i5 & 1050ti.

I agree, from what I've seen this is your best/safest option around 300.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

What happens to one user on a forum or your 2 power supplies doesn't tmatter when these things are sold by the millions

If there is one then there is a strong likelihood there will be more or have been others. That's just going by the percentages. I sure wouldn't want one of them hooked up to my machines if it happened again.

Yeah.

Well back when I bought mine they were one the best around, I went with the reviews and owner experiences etc.

They are still running today so it seems as it worked out.

As time goes on things are improved (Supposedly).

On the Seasonic side:

The M12II is being replaced by the G Series I guess?

The Focus is a new model.

The X-Series is being replaced by the Gold Prime Series, that's what it looks like to me anyway.

The G Series is old as dirt. Plus, like the S12ii, has the same problems of poor protections and a loud fan.

You can find any instance of any power supply blowing up. If you think an electronic is completely free from potential failure, then you are wrong. I have seen Corsair RMxs be blown up before. Should I suddenly not recommend them because "Some user on some forum had an RMx blow up, so it can happen to others?" No, of course not. Also, a power supply that has sold 100X as many units as another, for instance, has a much higher probability of having a forum thread about its failure.

Let's say PSU A sells 100 units. PSU B sells 1000 units. Rate of explosion of PSU A is 1%. 1/100 units ended up exploding in some way. Rate of explosion of PSU B is 0.5%. 5/1000 units end up exploding.

There is a 5X better chance you will see an instance, on an Internet forum, of a complaint of PSU B exploding. Then suddenly people are going to go, "Now look at all these exploding PSU Bs! Unlike PSU B, PSU A rarely explodes." And at the end of the day, they are incorrect, and PSU B actually has a lower explosion rate than PSU A, but people totally forget to take into account volume.

The Corsair CX units sold like crazy. I can quite assuredly tell you they probably sold 10X more than your average power supply.

 

[StanicEnemy]

Guys im not a pro,many people here using cooler master and corsair as a psu,can you please tell me why both brands are crap? Thank you in advice

There are different grades of power supplies made by both Cooler Master and Corsair.

Some models are basically garbage while others are very good to excellent.

I see thanks! but like you suggested me some corsair etc psu's are not available here,is EVGA 110-BQ-0650-V2 650Wreally bad?

 

[Rexper]

No. It is quite a decent performing unit. It is based on a HEC platform, the same as the 750w version reviewed here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=490

What price are you seeing it?

 

[StanicEnemy]

No. It is quite a decent performing unit. It is based on a HEC platform, the same as the 750w version reviewed here: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=490

What price are you seeing it?

if it is good enough to carry me over years then ill go for it

750w 365 TL 700w 316 TL 750w nova 386 TL

http://www.nanokatalog.com/EVGA-700B-700W-siyah-Guc-Kaynagi-700-W-Dahili-ATX,PR-154348.html

http://www.nanokatalog.com/EVGA-110-BQ-0750-V2-750W-siyah-Guc-Kaynagi-unitesi,PR-154362.html

http://www.nanokatalog.com/EVGA-Guc-Kaynagi-750W-SuperNOVA-750-B1-Semi-Moduler-80Bronze-Guc-Kaynagi-750-W,PR-154358.html

 

[madmatt30]

The antec I posted is better quality than any of those b1 / bq evga's.

 

[StanicEnemy]

The antec I posted is better quality than any of those b1 / bq evga's.

unfortunately its unavailable here :/