QoS setup for CS GO on TP-LINK WR841HP router

[sumoraics]

Greetings,

I have an exceptionally terrible internet connection (3mbps down, 1 up) since internet is really expensive here. My main game is CS:GO (i live in asia ) and I get around 60 ping on an average day however when someone is using the internet, my ping spikes up to 1000 ping especially when they are streaming youtube, and even facebook. So I recently bought a TP Linkk WR841HP in an attempt to solve my ping issue through the use of the QoS system installed on the router. I asked the seller if this router has the QoS features and he said that I should research on what ports I need for it to properly function.

So Here are the Ports that CS GO and other valve games use
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=8571-GLVN-8711

My question is, How do i input these values in the Qos features of my router

My Qos page
http://i.imgur.com/qpinEDV.png
http://i.imgur.com/JnjYyrb.png
http://i.imgur.com/BEDyg5h.png

Also, if there is a better way to at least "minimize" the spikes I get from the streams of my housemates, let me know! 😀

Thanks and have a good day fellas

 

[bill001g]

Pretty much the only way you solve this issue on a connection as small as your is to get everyone else off when you play. So you yell down the hall everyone get off I am going to play my game.

If that is a acceptable to everyone and you just want a automated way then you can to a point use QoS to do this.

Your game needs in the 500-700k up and down. What you need to do is put in a rule that says everyone else is limited to 2m down and 300k up combined. It is actually a fairly complex rule to say "everyone else" but it can be done with effort.

The problem you have is 300k up will make the connection almost unusable and it will have that limitation even when your game is not running.


So....you can do it but I suspect others in your house do not feel the same as you do to the importance of your game.

 

[progamer4lif94]

Hello,

I have a similar problem but unfortunately I'm not familiar with the QoS Settings of my Router (TP-LINK TD-W8961ND).
As for the settings of your router, just set a rule giving your PC 40%-60% of the upload and download bandwidth on the minimum bandwidth of the rule for the router and enable the QoS setting when you feel you are starting to lag, and then disable the QoS Setting when your done so that traffic does not stay restricted.

As for my issue, Since it seems very similar, I thought I'd ask the question in the same thread, my objective is to prioritize or reserve a certain amount of traffic from the router for my PC but unfortunately I'm clueless about the QoS Settings in the attached images below, I've also twerked the settings around a bit but unfortunately I could not get the desired results.

Quality of Service Settings - Unconfigured
http://imgur.com/wBtaWNv

Quality of Service Settings - Currently Set
http://imgur.com/NImqC3p

Another "QoS" Listed under the Internet Settings Tab
http://imgur.com/Ukx2IqF

Thanking you in advance.

 

[bill001g]

All the % of bandwidth and things like high/medium/low are a mostly a waste of time. They work ok on the upload traffic but that is not the common one people overload unless it is very small.

On the download side most setting have no effect. The ISP is in full control of what traffic is dropped or delayed. By the time your router gets involved the data is already gone and its not like your router can recreate it and give it priority.

The only way this even partially works is to limit all traffic you do not want to some fixed amount. This causes your router to drop traffic has already received from the ISP. The hope is the end user machine detects this traffic loss and attempt to prevent it by requesting less data. It works for many applications but not all.

This is not a simple configuration since you must limit all other traffic not give yours some bandwidth. It is even harder to configure on a small connection because the end applications are constantly trying to get more bandwidth so you get small burst of data over the limit you set.

 

[progamer4lif94]

But if i limit the upload traffic to tiny amounts for certain devices wont i get better traffic for my pc ? and how do i limit traffic in this ?? what do I have to set ?

 

[bill001g]

I do not think your router has the ability to do what you need. It is hard to say some of the tplink ones do have the ability to limit traffic to fixed amounts. It is on a different screen if it has the feature. What you need to do is match all ip except yours and put it in a group. You then must create a rule that limits the traffic matching that group to some fixed amount of bandwidth.

Hard to say I normally use dd-wrt if I need to do this but that is likely not a option since it appears you have a dsl router. Maybe tplink has newer firmware for your router.

 

[progamer4lif94]

So What does the QoS Settings in my router do ?, It can control only upload traffic right ??, could you tell how i limit the traffic ?, what do Action do i give ? they multiple options in them and I've read through a lot of the forum posts regarding this, but finally decided to register and ask a question since I wasn't able to find a solution.

 

[bill001g]

The vast majority of what is on the screen you have linked do absolutely nothing.

QoS is not a beginner network concept it is one of the more advanced topic and it requires a a very strong understanding of how traffic actually flows along with a strong understanding of the field inside packets to even be able to start to do QoS that really works.

Understanding how TCP window size actually functions is critical to getting QoS to work.

These topic are not something that can be explained in a forum they are almost book sized topics. Even QoS is a topic so large there are complete books on the topic.

I am not sure you have the traffic matched correctly in your example but if we assume you do the router will then give the traffic "high" priority. These words mean nothing. In fact almost all QoS terms mean nothing. It is up to the router manufacture to define what this really means. Even within a manufacture different models the QoS works differently and they do not document much at all. Some work ok and others are purely a useless screen used to make people think they are doing something.

This is where you need QoS screens where you can define exactly what you want it to do. Setting traffic to 200k is a pretty obvious and can not be confused. Even then you must understand how the application actually works to know if 200k is enough.

QoS is best thought of a box of tools. Just because you buy a box of tools does not mean you can repair a car.

 

[progamer4lif94]

Wow, so basically I"m screwed unless I install a custom firmware in my router I guess. But the QoS where you specify the download and upload speed as shown by the thread creator is so effective, I remember configuring a dlink router of my room mates with similar settings which would achieve the purpose I'm trying to get to work on this router. I guess tp link's just screwed me over.