QOTD: How Important is Good Tech Support?

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I've only made once a tech support call in my entire 25 years of working with pc's.

It is fairly useless to me. Back in the nineties people just lived with mobo's with bugs. They did not return them, or had to do give up their 200Mhz DDR memory for a 100Mhz one without a bug, or their USB2.0 mobo for a USB1.1 one; and the pro's (being bugless) far outweighed the cons.

So for me tech support is rather useless. There are forums, etc...
 
I work at a call center for a major ISP, and I have been in contact with several manufacturers (mainly Modem/Router OEM's, but software and general hardware as well). For those who don't know, customer service and tech support are complimentary, overlapping, and sometimes the very same thing. For the customers I speak to, it is perhaps the most important aspect that guides their purchasing habits.

This stuff may seem easy to you and me, but the average schmo is dependent on tech support to maintain their systems, networks, software, and devices. I don't need it, but I believe it eventually is important to everyone involved in the product's lifecycle.
 
Tech support is very important, to the laptop owner AND the vendor IF they want to keep their reputation intact an keep on selling their products.

I am not surprised HP has a bad tech support rating, I love their printers but trust me - I will never buy a laptop from them again. I resided in New York 2 years ago, my gf had a HP with a very strange problem, and finding HP a specialist (not just a general computer repair) was just impossible. Their website had only outdated and inadequate information. No one can say I didn't try hard cos I had a psycho girlfriend crying and screaming at me constantly to fix it NOW!!!

I don't want to go into details cos this was really a bad experience, but I never want this girl back, and I never want an HP 😀
 
Great tech support is very important to me. I have been working doing computer support and building computers for almost 20 yrs now. When I call into a tech support location that starts reading a script to me when I have already done everything they are reading it is a prime way to lose me as a customer. Qwest support is a prime one for this, their customer support is not in the U.S. and all they do is read a script. Then when you tell them that you have done everything they are saying they start to argue with you. Dell's technical support is not much better then this.

It seems that good technical support is becoming a lost art in the U.S.
 
For most people i am the administrator, when you get the message "....blah blah blah is not working please contact the administrator" 😛 so of course it is not important.

also i don,t buys Dell, HP or Gateway because they like to pud low end parts in their computers and charge you the same price as a better quality one.

Most of the time I apply for RMA from website (Asus of course, works good but most of the time i get Refurbish parts that don't last long....)
 
The only tech support service I use from companies is their download pages and then warranty replacement. So really over the phone tech support is of almost no use to me; except that for it's what I do for a living. Makes it a little important until we phase out the generations that refuse to learn the tech.
 
Well i work in some sort of tech support so i can give feedback, for instance you want to be Acer support, you receive few mails and you are on your own, Hp same thing as long as you seel enough of their computers they do not find interest to track down support issues.
Toshiba and Lenovo do give proper training, give up to date information and also reward support with bonuses if they do their job properly
 
Very important. That's why up until I got my HD4870, I bought BFG Tech. AMAZING US based tech support. My 7900GS broke so I called them up:

Me: "Yea, I have a 7900GS from you guys, it runs cool, but i still get artifacts in games..."
Tech Guy: "Yep that's a defective card. Just send it in, and we'll replace it. You got our address?"
Me: "Yep"
Tech Guy: "Awesome, then you're good to go"

So, I sent in my 7900GS. Just over a week later I received a brand new 7900GS (exact same one, factory OC and everything), and a BFG Tech tshirt.

BFG4Life!!1one!
 
[citation][nom]redgarl[/nom]Having dealt with poor products from Antec, Gigabyte, BFG and Asus... I know that a good store can save you some hassle.[/citation]
You just named some of the best companies out there...
 
[citation][nom]redgarl[/nom]What I hate is the MIR crap... if the product sux, you are screwed and need to keep it. THIS IS what I call a lack of support...[/citation]
That's why you test the item out before you decide to clip off the upc code.
 
Had a very good experience with HP tech support. Had a lot of HP laptops with bad hard drives, where HP shipped new ones. Also HP once replaced a laptop's motherboard where the warranty was over by few months.
 
Not very important to me but very important to the average user. I have bumbled into being the tech support person for friends, family and coworkers and you wouldn't believe the unhelpful tech support experiences people have. I believe one reason Apple commands such brand loyality and repeat customers (and slowly increasing market share) is their excellent tech support.
 
OK, 1) who calls tech support the most? People who have no clue what they're buying, and shop for PCs like they shop at Walmart... Cheaper is better. Also, people who buy cheap, and who clearly don't understand component quality, let alone what specs they need to do a certain thing, also drag on with tech support endlessly trying to make their HD camcorder work with their $400 PC...

Then we've also got support by product line. Call HP about a retail notebook and you'll wait 45 minutes to talk to someone who can essentially tell you nothing and who's job it is to ensure you've done at best the simplest levels of diagostics, or to walk you through them first before passing on to someone who might actually have an answer. The time on hold is spent listening to a recording tells you over and over to look for solutions online, or simply to reformat your machine with the factory CD and see if the issue persists. Call their business line about a server issue and you'll wait virtually no time on hold, and talk to someone who can actually help you with driver issues, and knows how to configure a RAID. Retail printer support sucks, OfficeJet support is a bit better, and large laser support (8000 series and up) is wonderful to deal with...

The same applies to Dell, but it's even more granular. Latitude support is the worst, their mainline notebooks get a bit better support, XPS is slightly better still, but all are still basically lvl 1 support at best and plagued by long hold times and dealing horrible, thick accents. Talk to their alienware devision, or about an Adamo notebook and the support is good in general.

Why?

The manufacturers know several things: A) people who buy cheap generally don't need support, they need a friggin manual and someone to make them read it; basically they just don't know how to use the machine, and it's almost always a software problem unless there's an obvious failure when they're calling in. B) 1 or 2 support calls, and a cheap machine turns from profitable, to a loss leader. Dell's lucky to clear $50 on some packages. Discouraging repetitive calls to support is impotant as a lvl 1 phone tech can be found for $7-9 an hour, but someone capable of real diagnostics over the phone is going to require more like $15 an hour, and lvl 2+ techs or those comfortable working with non-standard OS customers (not XP or Vista Home) can cost even more. The call center itself including the equipment and other staff is an added expense. Getting the tech off the line as quickly as possible is the number one job, convincing customers to use online resources that don't require a tech at all is even better...

Now look at Apple. They don't sell cheap crap forst of all. 1) Most people buying a mac are above average in their knowledge at least of what machine they need to do a particular task; either that or since there's no el-cheapo model, most machine sare simply up to any task thrown at them by general users. 2) The operating system simply is superior in both usability and reliabiltiy. Having error messages that are less than cryptic doesn't hurt either. 3) Apple's support site not only makes sense, and its generally easy to find answers. Further, a WEALTH of very well produced user tutorials exists on nearly every aspect of using the mac, including how to use each major program and even how to perform some fairly complex tasks. 4) lack of viruses. Yes there's some mailware, but the bloatware, spyware, and viruses simply can't propgate in the mac. It is possibole to get one, and there are some out there that can cuase quite a bit of damage either to your file system or your credit ranting, but any app running on a mac is easy to spot, and easy to clean out, as it generally is for all UNIX based operating systems. A simple AV program that monitors privelige escalations with huristic scanning can pretty much prevent all forms of iunfection. 5) when there's a hardware problem, it's obvious. Most people calling Apple support are doing so not "because my computer is slow" but because "I have a bomb when i turn it on," or "it won't turn on" 6) data recovery. Thank GOD for Time Machine... Reinstalls are a snap, and it restores all application settings too. The OS can also detect and repair bad files most times avoiding a re-install. 7) Geniouses. When all else fails, Apple's phone support (which is really good in and of itself, using people who really know the mac system well as their lvl 1 people) realizes you;re not dealing with hardware trouble, or when it;s questionable, can allways direct you to a local Apple store. Here, not only can they run advanced diagnostics quick and easy, or direct you to a genius for a free training session, but the folks in the store can turn a support call into a pleasant experience, feed you with information about the OS and your machine while it's being fixed on the spot for you, and in most cases I've seen, convince you to get an upgrade, a new accessory, or more, while you're there. For Apple, tech support is not only a good customer experience, it's usually profitable as well, and a customer who buys something because a tech showed them how it makes their life easier is MUCH more likely to return than one forced into hardware upgrades or new software "just to make it work."
 
bad tech supports works why?

for people in the know, they produce cheaper PCs that can be used and fixed by the owner.

for those not in the know, they see that Geek Squad charges them 200 to fix a computer that brought for 500, then they simple upgrade by getting a new comp from the same brand.
 
You forgot to mention Gateway. I was almost ready to buy their new 12" netbook until I went around their web site (no way to contact them by email or phone to ask a pre sales question) and read reviews from customers. Costumers who bought said it is impossible to get answers after you buy. It changed my mind about buying their product. To bad, I think that little 12" netbook would have made a sweet little Linux portable.
The best one I have ever dealt with is Apple, they are on top of their products, at least computers. I don't know about the iPhone group.
 
I'd venture to say that 85% of all people who call tech support do so to rage and scream at the first tier of support (who usually aren't the decision makers), then they either get "Oops!" disconnected or hang up themselves after thoroughly verbally assaulting some poor tech and complain to their friends about how X company's support is so terrible when the tech wouldn't help you after your barrage of whines, accusations and insults.
 
Acer, Dell and HP all have phone support in INDIA!

Every time i call for support they have the nerve to act all cocky while providing worthless advise. then they have the nerve to have you try stuff you have already done!....and then they purposefully make you repeat yourself twice!!!

2 bucks an hour....i guess you get what Acer, Dell and HP pay for ehh!

you are better off doing e-mail support!

last time i called this Indian guy said his name was BOB....then 10 minutes later said it was bill....i told him "I thought you said your name was BOB? BUSTED!

another Time one of them dropped the ball sending out a battery.....i told them i spoke with a FRANK.....so since this guys real name was not frank they had a Frank in the US call me back......they made sure his name was frank!!!!!

this is mainly with HP support.

at least HP will ship you a box for pickup!!!!!
 
[citation][nom]VioMeTriX[/nom]i got a negative to my response that i want to speak to tech support in my own country? ummm must of gotten those negatives from the sand awesome people stealing american jobs[/citation]

I think you're wayyyyy outta line here...
 
It's not important to me at all...
Reason: I AM Tech support.
Those dumb*sses don't know jack, I have never heard any of them say anything smart that I didn't already try BEFORE calling them.
BUT...
I should know what to try since I worked as a warranty technician for Dell. Seriously I swear those people read from a book.
 
Extremely important, especially in computer hardware parts, where diagnosis of some problems with a new build can be a bit harder (Is it my new mainboard or my new graphics adapter?). Return policies are also an extremely important part of the computer part business.

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