Quad-Core Intel Atom CPUs Coming in 2013

[danwat1234]

They should stick with dual core and bring single-threaded performance up to decent levels

 

[Guest]

ITT: We talk about GM and cars

 

[g4114rd0]

- “Ok ramblers, let's get to rambling”... The car for country roads.

The nm is vast and limitle$$. Nvidia play on 10nm Exchelon Chip.

 

[Guest]

Regarding the cars... Europeans don't like american cars not because they are american but because some of its particularities. As someone has already said some american cars are just to big for the European roads. We also prefer smaller and more efficient engines, with much more specific power than what you can see in American cars (hp/cc). to sum up in general european cars, namely german cars, have a much higher construction quality than american cars, at least when compared with the cars the americans are selling in Europe. The only decent company is Ford. GM is only selling shity cars (chevrolet - one of the worst and Opel - the worst german)

 

[palladin9479]

Next question, why do you think there is an extra 30% there?

For the same reason foreign cars over here in Korea are 70~100% more expensive the comparative local brands (Hyundai, Kia, Daewoo (GM actually), Samsung). Non-tariff trade barriers put in place to protect the local domestic economy from foreign competition. You can't put a tariff on the import as that would be against any free trade agreements or trade pacts that you (the country in question) signed. Instead you create a set of local laws that in turn create domestic tax's and fee's associated with foreign purchased / owned items. The purchaser of the car is required to pay these tax's / fees not the importer, and thus it doesn't violate any trade agreements but does inflate the price of foreign purchased items.

Example is my 2009 BMW 135i. From the US it was approx $42,000 USD as ordered. Over here in SK, assuming you could find someone to sell it (they don't import that specific model) it would be over 80,000 KRW (approx $70,000 USD). There is a luxury tax, engine tax, emissions tax and foreign manufacturer registration fee associated with it. Domestic produced cars like the Genesis are exempt from many of these tax's and fee's and thus are cheaper.

Many countries do this to protect their local manufacturing base. The USA really should do this, but it doesn't and gets taken for a ride.

 

[captaincharisma]

ahh nothing like hearing the Americans trying to defend there car makers. you know your government tried to sink Toyota to try to get your so your horrid car manufacturers back into the game

 

[palladin9479]

ahh nothing like hearing the Americans trying to defend there car makers. you know your government tried to sink Toyota to try to get your so your horrid car manufacturers back into the game

Huh????

Troll go away.

 

[Guest]

At least the car manufacturers debate gets more interesting than this crappy wannabe cpu advertising.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]southernshark[/nom]They need to drop the whole Atom name and start from scratch. Atom has a reputation on par with a GM model car.[/citation]
with the average consumer, with tech people yeah it's crap, but does the average person really know what's in their laptop besides Intel or AMD.

They scrapped Pentium for a reason. It was what every CPU was named outside of the server\laptop market. They didn't have a choice, or at least much of a choice.

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]sorry to LOL, but what "market" is that ?If you travel overseas you'd be surprised on how many GM cars you will see on the roads; virtually none.If their cars where so highly rated by consumers they would not have been in need of a multi-billion bail out deal.[/citation]

I just can assume you would listen to reason even if it was explained why they had a bailout. It's more complicated than their cars suck.

 

[trg_74]

Speaking as someone from the UK, what I have heard about perceptions of American cars would probably be the deciding factor in why they sell poorly here. Right or wrong, there is this perception of a "pile them high and sell them cheap" philosophy with US manufacturers, along with built-in obsolescence. In short, it's the perceived quality of the product that hampers sales - US manufacturers should work on this.

 

[gam0reily]

kICK-ASS!!!

 

[holyprof]

[citation][nom]sseyler[/nom]I don't think I'd want to buy a chip as inefficient as an Atom and then do worse by adding more cores.[/citation]

Yeah, atom processors suck even more if you think they are INTEL processors! How can a company that launched the Core2, i5/i7 2500/2600 desktop CPUs sell that crap to customers? Noone is going to run rendering, video encoding etc on his/her netbook! Just make Atom faster and keep it dual-core.

 

[captaincharisma]

atom is supposed to be a real cheap CPU. how do you think they were able to sell netbooks so cheap? if the CPU's were at the same qualitylike a celeron or i3 then netbooks would be the same price as the usual laptop.

 

[g4114rd0]

- “...nm it was all l could get on the black market.“

 Intel built smurfs to speed up Android $upersmartphones, isn’t it?

 

[nottheking]

A quad-core Atom? I think it's just too little, too late. As others have noted, Intel needs to try a new architecture here. It only gets a per-clock performance that roughly equates the Pentium 4, meaning that against AMD's Bobcat/Fusion APUs, Intel's offering is a complete joke even BEFORE you count the GPU side.

Intel needs to either significantly improve the per-clock performance, or raise the clock speed, or both. Until then, Atom will remain Intel's ugly stepchild among their performers, and the has-been of the sub-10w CPU realm.

[citation][nom]southernshark[/nom]They need to drop the whole Atom name and start from scratch. Atom has a reputation on par with a GM model car.[/citation]
That comparison's actually pretty insulting to GM.

[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]If you travel overseas you'd be surprised on how many GM cars you will see on the roads; virtually none.[/citation]
Well, how many Renaults or Citroens do you see on the roads in America? Or from Tata Motors, Proton, Kuozui, or, for that matter, any of the numerous giant Chinese corporations? (remember that China produces more automobiles than the USA and Japan COMBINED)

Yet, if you go overseas, you'll find GM has a noticeable market share virtually everywhere: they just don't use their familiar nameplates that they do here. Opel is Germany's 5th-largest automaker, roughly the size of BMW. Similarly, GM operates as Korea's Daewoo, UK's Vauxhaul, Oceania's Holden...

I think it's safe to say that GM's got some popularity. After all, the Volt, in its year of release, outsold Toyota's plug-in Prius, held back purely by manufacturing shortages.

 

[WR2]

Another solution in search of a problem.

 

[marshalmelow]

holy fuck stop bitching about cars. instead lets just make funny comments about how shitty the quad core atoms are gonna be unless they give it a new architecture.

 

[captaincharisma]

holy *** stop bitching about cars. instead lets just make funny comments about how shitty the quad core atoms are gonna be unless they give it a new architecture.

umm...no because no one cares

 

[Guest]

In my opinion, as somebody working in the distribution industry. The Atom processor is a popular and good choice. I can imagine everyone here, has their high-end Core i5/Core i7 Processors in their custom-built PC's. Let you into a little secret, there is a whole load of markets out there that you are blissfully unaware of. Intel is at least attempting to improve their processors across the board. I for one wait with anticipation to see what the new Atom's will bring to the table...