News Qualcomm claims it owns 10% of U.S. Windows PC retail market for devices priced $800 and up

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Qualcomm says it owns 10% of Windows PC sales from October to December 2024 — but only for retail and only for devices worth $800 and up.

Qualcomm claims it owns 10% of U.S. Windows PC retail market for devices priced $800 and up : Read more

 

[GenericUser2001]

Does that factor in returns? The local Best Buy has a bunch of Snapdragon machines sitting in their open-box section for months now, and I have heard similar anecdotes from others.

 

[HideOut]

i call BS. As someone has said, so many of these are getting returned because people realize they can't do much of what they want to do.

 

[dalek1234]

They are either fudging the numbers by hiding something, or they are outright lying. Are they dumb? They are going to get sued by investors when the truth comes out to light

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Well, the wording of the headline is quite specific. So, I'm sure it's possible to fudge 10%.

I can't remember exactly where I saw it, but as I understand it, total PC (laptop) sales for ARM are less than 2%. What gives?

Ill try find the article and link it.

 

[ekio]

If the ARM PC can't do all the things an x86 PC can do, it's only Microsoft's fault.
It means their x86_64 to armv9 wrapper systems are unfinished.
The PC themselves are not at fault...

I would definitely buy an ARM PC if I had to, to get rid of obsolete x86, and open the way for a CPU market where REAL competition exists.

When/if Nvidia release their desktop class ARM CPU at the end of the year to build gamer ARM PCs, things will change significantly.

We just need to be a little bit patient.

 

[dCasualGamer]

Does that factor in returns? The local Best Buy has a bunch of Snapdragon machines sitting in their open-box section for months now, and I have heard similar anecdotes from others.

I agree. i see similar situation too.

 

[EzzyB]

If the ARM PC can't do all the things an x86 PC can do, it's only Microsoft's fault.
It means their x86_64 to armv9 wrapper systems are unfinished.

I've got news for you, it will never be "finished". Apple is on it's 4th generation and it's not finished.

The PC themselves are not at fault...

Well, except for the fact that they aren't designed for the programs that people are using. Only for the OS they are using. It's not as fine a distinction as you think.

I would definitely buy an ARM PC if I had to, to get rid of obsolete x86, and open the way for a CPU market where REAL competition exists.

Real competition has existed since x86 has. The first CPU I installed was in an IBM PC v.2 I was repairing and was an x86 clone made by NEC. While NEC and many others have dropped out over the decades, there has always been competition.

When/if Nvidia release their desktop class ARM CPU at the end of the year to build gamer ARM PCs, things will change significantly.

It might be interesting, but consider that gaming is actually the hardest thing you can attempt in this space. It may take many, many years before we're comfortable buying a ARM gaming rig.

We just need to be a little bit patient.

Yeah, or a LOT patient. ARM was designed to be efficient. Younger people don't understand that the first RISC "revolution" happened in the 90's. IBM lost HUGE on it, only it's excellent ThinkPad laptops kept it in the PC business at all until it sold out to Lenovo. So, I'm still skeptical.

The interesting thing is that Apple can do it because of it's walled garden. It could, for instance be done in business where the computers are managed, and installed software is tightly controlled, but business is the most skeptical of ARM laptops right now. If you have worked in corporate IT you know why.

 

[Sluggotg]

"But it will likely take time, and we can only wait and see if the Qualcomm CEO’s prediction that the Snapdragon X chips will take 50% of the Windows PC market by 2029 will come true."

That won't be happening. Their claims of 10% is not accurate. This is just another attempt by a company to get people worked up so they will jump on the Band Wagon because their product is "The Future". I don't see myself building/buying one of these over an AMD/Intel based system by 2029. I especially don't see 50% of all Windows users going Qualcomm in that time period.

 

[Notton]

They don't have a single device that's under $900, what are they on?