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So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
 
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Chris The Wizard wrote:
> So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
> tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
> combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
> that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?

That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
minutes.

Definitely not worth a ring slot in an Epic campaign.

Laszlo
 
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laszlo_spamh...@freemail.hu wrote:
> Chris The Wizard wrote:
> > So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
> > tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
> > combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
> > that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
>
> That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
> Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
> minutes.
>
> Definitely not worth a ring slot in an Epic campaign.
>
> Laszlo

Definitely worth carrying and using on suitable occasions - sneaking
past guards without engaging?

MadKaugh
 
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Madkaugh wrote:
> laszlo_spamh...@freemail.hu wrote:
> > Chris The Wizard wrote:
> > > So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
> > > tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
> > > combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
> > > that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
> >
> > That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
> > Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
> > minutes.
> >
> > Definitely not worth a ring slot in an Epic campaign.
> >
> > Laszlo
>
> Definitely worth carrying and using on suitable occasions - sneaking
> past guards without engaging?

Okay, so it's kind of painfully obvious that you've never played in an
Epic campaign. :)

Laszlo
 
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> >
> > Definitely worth carrying and using on suitable occasions - sneaking
> > past guards without engaging?
>
> Okay, so it's kind of painfully obvious that you've never played in an
> Epic campaign. :)
>
> Laszlo

I figured it could be useful occassionally, maybe not sneaking past
guards so much as just being able to scout ahead a little bit just to
get a look around maybe? I dunno.
 
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Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
> laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu <laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote:
> > Chris The Wizard wrote:
> >> So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
> >> tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
> >> combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
> >> that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
> >
> > That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
> > Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
> > minutes.
>
> I'm not sure about the duration. Because of the way item pricing works,
> duration has no effect on cost, and most worn items seem like they're
> assumed to work continuously.

Nope, it's unambiguous. Here are the relevant bits from the SRD:

"Usually, a ring's ability is activated by a command word (a standard
action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity) or it works
continually."

"By activating this simple silver ring, the wearer can benefit from
invisibility, as the spell."

Laszlo
 
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Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
> laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu <laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote:
> > Don't take my word for it, check out the Epic-level monsters here, for
> > instance:
> > http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/epicMonsters.htm
>
> Epic monsters are just wrong. Most of them seem like they were CRed by
> somebody who doesn't know that "challenging" really means "requires
> about 20% of your spell slots to defeat" in D&D.

Quite apart from the chllenge they pose, most Epic monsters look like
they were designed by a complete retard.

My favourite example is the Lavawight, which can cast Spell Immunity to
Sleet Storm (only) at will. Besides being a ridiculously specific
effect, I can't believe no one figured out that SPELL IMMUNITY DOESN'T
WORK AGAINST SLEET STORM.

Does this really matter? No. But if design gaffes this obvious slipped
through, then do you really trust the designers to have avoided far
more subtle and insidious pitfalls of high-level design? I don't. And
they haven't. Epic-level D&D is fun, but only if you play it
off-the-cuff and rules-light.

Laszlo
 
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laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu wrote:
> Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
> > laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu <laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote:
> > > Chris The Wizard wrote:
> > >> So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
> > >> tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
> > >> combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
> > >> that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
> > >
> > > That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
> > > Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
> > > minutes.
> >
> > I'm not sure about the duration. Because of the way item pricing works,
> > duration has no effect on cost, and most worn items seem like they're
> > assumed to work continuously.
>
> Nope, it's unambiguous. Here are the relevant bits from the SRD:
>
> "Usually, a ring's ability is activated by a command word (a standard
> action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity) or it works
> continually."
>
> "By activating this simple silver ring, the wearer can benefit from
> invisibility, as the spell."

Yep, I noticed this in my last campain with the ring of blinking. One
of the PCs had it 'on' all the time for encounters. Then I noticed the
activation bit.

Still it doesn't take that much to reactivate it every so often before
it runs out, and remain invisible. Just means you can't sleep
invisible.

- Justisaur
 
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On 26 Aug 2005 14:43:54 -0700, "Chris The Wizard"
<nextbeatle@comcast.net> wrote:

>So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
>tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
>combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
>that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?

Of course.

Besides, at that level most things see through it.
 
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On 26 Aug 2005 14:43:54 -0700, "Chris The Wizard" wrote:

>so does that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?

Yes.


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laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu <laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote:
> Chris The Wizard wrote:
>> So I'm going to be joining an epic level game and I was thinking about
>> tossing a few gold to a ring of invisibility for the little AC bonus in
>> combat, but I realized it said it was invisibilty as the spell, so does
>> that mean the second I make an attack I would become visible?
>
> That is correct, you'd have to reactivate it again (a Standard action).
> Also, since it's CL 3, it wears off (and must be reactivated) every 3
> minutes.

I'm not sure about the duration. Because of the way item pricing works,
duration has no effect on cost, and most worn items seem like they're
assumed to work continuously.
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd
 
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laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu <laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote:
> Don't take my word for it, check out the Epic-level monsters here, for
> instance:
> http://www.d20srd.org/indexes/epicMonsters.htm

Epic monsters are just wrong. Most of them seem like they were CRed by
somebody who doesn't know that "challenging" really means "requires
about 20% of your spell slots to defeat" in D&D.
--
Bradd W. Szonye
http://www.szonye.com/bradd
 
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<laszlo_spamhole@freemail.hu> wrote in message
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>
>
> My favourite example is the Lavawight, which can cast Spell Immunity to
> Sleet Storm (only) at will. Besides being a ridiculously specific
> effect, I can't believe no one figured out that SPELL IMMUNITY DOESN'T
> WORK AGAINST SLEET STORM.
>
<maniacal Sicilian laughter>

Glenn D.
 
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