Question Questions around adding RAM on Asus M509DA (Ryzen 3 3200u)

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I mostly play esport titles, they are very playable, but would love a bit more juice.

Currently using 2x4gb 2400mhz (one of them is soldiered into the motherboard), and was wondering if swapping the replacable 4gb stick with an 8gb or even would make a drastic difference, since on 8gb, 2gb is used as VRAM, leaven 6gb for games and Windows.

questions :
-Should I get an 8gb stick or 16gb? How big will the differnence in performance be?
-After the upgrade (ending up with 1x4gb + 1x8gb), will they on run dual channel? If no, is it still worth it?
-If I were to get a 16gb stick, will the big difference in size mess up anything (1x4gb + 1x16gb)?

Thoughts?
 

Vyrvelata

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https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/8gb-4gb-dual-channel-possible.2355608/

"Not a good idea to mix DRAM from different packages, they may or may not play nice together, if they do, then you'd be runnin in flex mode w/ 4GB from each stick running dual channel and the odd 4 GB on the 8GB stick in single channel mode"

Even in dual channel, if your graphics is bad, you won't see noticeably difference.
With more ram, you machine will become more responsive and maybe load faster, but in games everything is up to the CPU, GPU.

Today games require at least 4GB ram and 8 is recommended (Most demandig games require 8 at least and 16 recommended but your talking about Esport so they are not in that category).

I'd recomend you to get 8GB stick and have 12GB, you Laptop will behave better, but other than that, don't hold your breath inside games, no matter how much ram you add.
 
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Even in dual channel, if your graphics is bad, you won't see noticeably difference.
With more ram, you machine will become more responsive and maybe load faster, but in games everything is up to the CPU, GPU.
Considering it's an AMD APU w/ integrated Vega graphics, wouldn't increasing available memory support graphics processing directly?

Read somewhere that systems running integrated graphics get the best results from a RAM upgrade and also that AMD systems generally benefit more than Intel.
 

Vyrvelata

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Considering it's an AMD APU w/ integrated Vega graphics, wouldn't increasing available memory support graphics processing directly?

Read somewhere that systems running integrated graphics get the best results from a RAM upgrade and also that AMD systems generally benefit more than Intel.
That' is true but, you have to have a great GPU so it can shine thru..
Its like .... to try to make the shape of a car better and to have less drag, but not to change the engine...
Your GPU is the engine of the graphics card, and your GPU is really, really slow.
You can't buy laptop for 300-400 EU (or how much you bought it), and expect it to behave amazingly, then what is the purpose of buying 1000-2000Eu laptops, we will be all buying ram and no need for better GPU and CPU.

If your card was really good it will benefit from the ram a lot (not only from the quantity but from the speed as well.. there is ram 2133Mhz, 2400Mhz,2666Mhz and so on, the faster the ram the better for GPU).
But in your case your GPU is nothing special whatever you do with the ram, won't change much.
 
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That' is true but, you have to have a great GPU so it can shine thru..
Its like .... to try to make the shape of a car better and to have less drag, but not to change the engine...
Your GPU is the engine of the graphics card, and your GPU is really, really slow.
You can't buy laptop for 300-400 EU (or how much you bought it), and expect it to behave amazingly, then what is the purpose of buying 1000-2000Eu laptops, we will be all buying ram and no need for better GPU and CPU.

If your card was really good it will benefit from the ram a lot (not only from the quantity but from the speed as well.. there is ram 2133Mhz, 2400Mhz,2666Mhz and so on, the faster the ram the better for GPU).
But in your case your GPU is nothing special whatever you do with the ram, won't change much.
Our model costs about 480 EUR equiv (800 AUD), the ram is 2666 though and 3500U processor. Sure, it's not going to play Red Dead 2, but here's a bloke playing Witcher 3 and GTA V

View: https://youtu.be/vCp8DGLD56s


Pretty crazy you can play anything even remotely modern on a laptop in this price range.
 

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