Radeon Software Crimson Hotfix Released, Fixes GPU Fan Profiles

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Something about these reports of dead cards is fishy to me. Stories like that don't result from the fan not spinning fast enough, at least not alone, they result from thermal throttling protections being turned off somehow.

I had the bug on my card, I thought the driver was so good that it made my card more efficient (fans weren't picking up). I thought that until the moment my framerate in Crysis 3 took a dump, and I checked HardwareMonitor to see my GPU temps at 85 C.

However it throttled properly, as should any GPU with correct protections in place.
 
The only problem with fan control that I have heard of is the speed being locked to 100%. I had that problem.

I lock my 7850 at 20% via speedfan. Never overheats. I guess big boy cards might get hot.
 
Hotfix... I see what you did there.

Seriously though, happy to have a new GTX970 right about now. AMDs horrible driver reputation isn't going to get much better at this rate. My 7870 Myst always ran quite hot (and loud).
 


20% fan speed at high load for extended periods of time could every easily result in dangerously high temperatures.
AMD said in a statement that it is aware of cards failing and acknowlegded it being a caused by a bug in the driver.
 


AMD stated last week that no further updates will be coming for end-of-life products.
the Crimson Beta for these cards was delivered as-is so I wouldn't count on an update.
 
I have a Powercolor R9 290X on Windows 10 and have experienced no issues. In fact my card has been running at 100% for a couple days as I was reminded about using Folding@Home.

I tried playing BF4 for a bit, and it was fine. I believe the temperature topped out at 65C.
 


Not with the card throttling down, or rebooting/crashing due to a thermal trip. These are protections that should kick in before the card is damaged.
 
This is part of why I don't immediately update my drivers anymore. I used to keep them up to date religiously until nVidia released a bugged driver and a friends GPU got fried. I lucked out that I had been out of town and hadn't updated. Since then, I always wait a week or 2 before updating.

I won't be updating to the Crimson driver for my 6870 as every driver since 14.12 tends to break the HDMI sound.
 
Most of the fan issues are with user or factory OC models not reference clocked cards.

The problem seems to be the fan setting comes set to fixed not auto and the default is ~20%. Although some have said that their settings were not saved I believed the global setting check-box for fixed was still checked.

Not having any details about how the failed cards were set up it is not really possible to understand why the failures occurred.

 
Hotfix... I see what you did there.

Seriously though, happy to have a new GTX970 right about now. AMDs horrible driver reputation isn't going to get much better at this rate. My 7870 Myst always ran quite hot (and loud).
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I don`t hear anybody with an AMD GPU to say that the driver bricked their cards, on the other hand Nvidia had a driver in the past that stopped the fan and bricked the cards. And no, they didn`t pay for any damages. Think again before you make a fast conclusion.

Also based on the Battlefield 4 forums, ever since Windows 10 launched most of the driver problems with the game comes from Nvidia GPU users ranging from GTX 960 to 980Ti with our without SLI. There are issues with AMD side also but they are far less than on the green side.
 
Hotfix... I see what you did there.

Seriously though, happy to have a new GTX970 right about now. AMDs horrible driver reputation isn't going to get much better at this rate. My 7870 Myst always ran quite hot (and loud).
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I don`t hear anybody with an AMD GPU to say that the driver bricked their cards, on the other hand Nvidia had a driver in the past that stopped the fan and bricked the cards. And no, they didn`t pay for any damages. Think again before you make a fast conclusion.

Also based on the Battlefield 4 forums, ever since Windows 10 launched most of the driver problems with the game comes from Nvidia GPU users ranging from GTX 960 to 980Ti with our without SLI. There are issues with AMD side also but they are far less than on the green side.
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I've actually been a victim on that front with Nvidia with a laptop I owned. $2500 down the drain on sli-8600m's. They even got sued over it, but no luck on my part. I am running AMD on my desktop now, but I may go with a Nvidia someday in the future; once my trust has been restored.
 
Using Global Overdrive for ALL games.....Profiles don't function.....FRTC only works on Cut Scenes in games.....My Far Cry 3 graphics options does not allow V Sync...DON'T NEED IT, just saying...,I posted before about reduced temps and it's still true....BUT, I have an XFX R290. It came with crappy putty on GPU....repaired that and 5 Deg C drop in temps...At least 10 deg C drop in temps, on ULTRA....I have a fan issue BUT it's opposite of everyone else....My fan speeds jump all over the place UNTIL I re-set them myself. So, just for fun I'm going to install the BETA driver. I'LL LERT YA KNOW>
 
hmm, for me it set fan speed to 65% on starting up the pc, i think it was just setting fan to manual at whatever was the last set manual option - 65% for me since i did set it like that for a bit and for ppl who hadnt touched the settings it set to default 20%
 
Hotfix... I see what you did there.

Seriously though, happy to have a new GTX970 right about now. AMDs horrible driver reputation isn't going to get much better at this rate. My 7870 Myst always ran quite hot (and loud).
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I don`t hear anybody with an AMD GPU to say that the driver bricked their cards, on the other hand Nvidia had a driver in the past that stopped the fan and bricked the cards. And no, they didn`t pay for any damages. Think again before you make a fast conclusion.

Also based on the Battlefield 4 forums, ever since Windows 10 launched most of the driver problems with the game comes from Nvidia GPU users ranging from GTX 960 to 980Ti with our without SLI. There are issues with AMD side also but they are far less than on the green side.
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Nice condescending attitude. I only said I was happy that I moved over, What I didn't add was that I am especially happy because I was looking forward to Crimson on my 7870. AMD DOES have a bad reputation with drivers in general.

Did you not see that I moved from an AMD? I didn't make a fast conclusion in any way. I researched the heck out of the cards and wasn't all on one side vs the other. If I didn't get the 970, I was going for an R9 390. The fast conclusion is on you for assuming I was taking sides.
 
What i fine it funny about these issue was people were defending AMD how card should trottle before real damage being done. But when it happen to nvidia they totally assume the card was totally damage without any protection and it was a measure by nvidia to force people to upgrade. And yes you will hear more issue on nvidia side right now when most people actually have nvidia card.

That aside i do think AMD seems like rushing out Crimson. Why not releasibg Crimson until the software really done? Some people notice that the hotfix was significantly larger than the original crimson. And the hot fix did contain a lot of other improvement as well. Why they havecto rush out Crimson release?
 


There are always fanboys exploiting any problems from the opposite "team" to talk trash. That goes both ways. That said, there's a difference between a fan being locked at 20% and being turned off entirely.

And Crimson may not have been rushed. They specifically chose not to include some of the features from the previous beta driver, instead giving those changes some more time in beta testing. Unfortunately this fan issue still happened.

The hotfix is in the beta branch, so it builds on the earlier beta driver and thus includes other (older) improvements that are not in the Crimson release driver either.
 
Even if the fan completely stop protection should kick in right? But in some cases the card are fried anyway. Back then user reporting the frame rates were dropping. That's a sign of the card being throttle down because of excessive temperature. I think it is the same case as this crimson fan issue. Still i see people said it is impossible for the card to be fried and even accusing those story were made up to made AMD look bad.
 


That's one of the flaws in reports about this. They don't tell you what the conditions were that caused the failure. Was the person using modded BIOS? OC'd to an unsafe level? etc..You never really know what caused the problem to completely kill the card(s).

I've noticed that the most argent vendor fanboys are the ones that knowingly or not with "vendor lock-in", i.e. SLI 2+ high end nVidia GPU's with gsync monitors and buying into all the nVidia software or similar Crossfire 2+ GPU's with Freesync monitors, etc... unless they have unlimited money, that kind of investment will lock you in to that vendor and those people will defend their chosen vendor to the end of the Earth.
 


Yeah, but if it was faulty and killing cards...unless they actually intended to kill cards that were no longer under warranty, forcing us to buy new...
 
People often said that they never OCed or change anything that can cause damage to the card. What people did not always factor in is if the said card running reference clock or was it factory overclocked cards. Personally i did encounter issues with my factory overclocked cards. With my GTS250 black artifact will appear when temperature reach 80c. Downclocking my shader clock down to reference speed solve the problem. And there is specific issue with nvidia driver that only affecting factory overclocked cards (happen with my Asus TOP 460) where the gpu remain on idle clock while in game causing very low frame rates.

I think many would think that factory overclocked card should be problem free because vendor has 'varified' the card to work at such clock. Probably why nvidia have greenlit program since kepler to avoid problem when board partner going agressive with their clock setting.
 
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