Question Ram not running at its intended speed

[blookmore]

RYZEN 9 5900x 3.7ghz
Corsair ram 3600mhz 2 16GB sticks
ASUs rog strix b550f
Zotac 2060 super amp extreme 8gb
Corsair rm550 gold standard
For some reason my ram only wants to sit at 2333mhz and when I try to either xmp or manually adjust it I just get the blue screen error code 0xc000000f.
Anyone have any potential idea as to why it’s so reluctant, not to clued up with this sorta stuff so any advice is appreciated.

 

[boju]

If ram are in 1st and 3rd slot from cpu move them to 2nd and 4th. 2nd and 4th are the primaries, xmp only works with these slots populated first with two stick operation.

After setting xmp make sure dram voltage is set to 1.35v. Xmp should already apply the correct dram voltage to 1.35v but won't be so doing it manually. Ram are probably in the wrong dimm slots.

If above still doesn't work try each stick individually in the 2nd slot.

 

[dev_cyberpunk]

The manual states:

The default memory operation frequency is dependent on its Serial Presence Detect (SPD), which is the standard way of accessing information from a memory module. Under the default state, some memory modules for overclocking may operate at a lower frequency than the vendor-marked value.

Unless you overclocking the board (which results are going to vary) you don't use any of the speeds listed as OC as they are never going to run at that speed in normal mode.

The fastest stable ram speed is 3200 on that board. The higher speeds listed are not practical to achieve unless you sit there with a pile of motherboards, processors and ram and find a set of them that will overclock at that speed.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

The manual states:

The default memory operation frequency is dependent on its Serial Presence Detect (SPD), which is the standard way of accessing information from a memory module. Under the default state, some memory modules for overclocking may operate at a lower frequency than the vendor-marked value.

Unless you overclocking the board (which results are going to vary) you don't use any of the speeds listed as OC as they are never going to run at that speed in normal mode.

The fastest stable ram speed is 3200 on that board. The higher speeds listed are not practical to achieve unless you sit there with a pile of motherboards, processors and ram and find a set of them that will overclock at that speed.

What in the name of flat-earthers and alien abductions are you talking about "overclock the board"? You overclock the RAM with board configurations/aka BIOS.

Also where do you even get "normal mode" from? OP even said they tried XMP, which is obviously NOT default.

Lastly. I have no idea where you're getting that OPs motherboard can only achieve 3200 max. A quick Google search shows tons of people have run 3600 so long as the latency isn't set too low. It all depends on the hardware, nothing is guaranteed as XMP is compatible with AMD but designed with Intel in mind. AMP and later X-AMP were less common AMD equivalent-ish to EXPO from DDR5 today.

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Since nobody has bothered asking;

@blookmore What's the exact model of your RAM kit? It's worth noting that IMO DOCP (aka XMP) on AMD is hacky

 

[dev_cyberpunk]

3600 so long as the latency isn't set too low

so your add delay to the 3600 mhz clock so the 2100 mhz ram will function at that frequency.

That is the deception of speed vs operation frequency. Sure I can sell you some ram that can run at 5Ghz, you just have to use a timing delay of 20 so the 3Ghz ram can function on a 5Ghz clock.

 

[SyCoREAPER]

so your add delay to the 3600 mhz clock so the 2100 mhz ram will function at that frequency.

That is the deception of speed vs operation frequency. Sure I can sell you some ram that can run at 5Ghz, you just have to use a timing delay of 20 so the 3Ghz ram can function on a 5Ghz clock.

Lowering latency isn't going to
A) Drop the RAM below it's base frequency which is presumably 2333MHz per the OPs post.
And
B) A small amount of latency and looser timings will at worst make the 3600MHz in gaming be more like 3400 or 3200Mhz while still giving productivity tasks a huge boost where latency doesnt matter as much.

 

[blookmore]

What in the name of flat-earthers and alien abductions are you talking about "overclock the board"? You overclock the RAM with board configurations/aka BIOS.

Also where do you even get "normal mode" from? OP even said they tried XMP, which is obviously NOT default.

Lastly. I have no idea where you're getting that OPs motherboard can only achieve 3200 max. A quick Google search shows tons of people have run 3600 so long as the latency isn't set too low. It all depends on the hardware, nothing is guaranteed as XMP is compatible with AMD but designed with Intel in mind. AMP and later X-AMP were less common AMD equivalent-ish to EXPO from DDR5 today.

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Since nobody has bothered asking;

@blookmore What's the exact model of your RAM kit? It's worth noting that IMO DOCP (aka XMP) on AMD is hacky

Thanks for your response, this is the one.
https://amzn.eu/d/cV6QLhk

 

[blookmore]

If ram are in 1st and 3rd slot from cpu move them to 2nd and 4th. 2nd and 4th are the primaries, xmp only works with these slots populated first with two stick operation.

After setting xmp make sure dram voltage is set to 1.35v. Xmp should already apply the correct dram voltage to 1.35v but won't be so doing it manually. Ram are probably in the wrong dimm slots.

If above still doesn't work try each stick individually in the 2nd slot.

I’ve looked through the manual and the ram is in the right slots but I haven’t tampered with the voltage as of yet, I’ve only applied the docp profile which has just resulted in a blue screen with the error code 0xc000000f

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Thanks for your response, this is the one.
https://amzn.eu/d/cV6QLhk

Again no guarantees. Its not ideal that the 3600 kit you have already has a higher latency over the other 3600 kit but is what it is***. RAM to me is a huge PIA but try:

Settimg your Infinity Fabric (FCLK) manually to 1800 (which is 1:1). Later on if that's not stable, drop it to 1733 which isn't ideal but may be more stable but that's not where you're at yet.
Loosen the timings. Try 19-23-23-44 first. Can try tightening them after you find stable.
RAM voltage to 1.35V , don't go higher than 1.4V, again that's down the line.
Set your SOC voltage to 1.1V
Check what your VDDG is set to. Probably said auto but set to 0.96V

Those timings are very loose and a slight voltage boost but not anything drastic and safe provided your board is good. Again, there's no guarantees my guesstimates will work but it's a start.

***Edit, disregard that. I'm tired and not thinking. The lower timing is for the lower gig kit.

 

[boju]

I’ve looked through the manual and the ram is in the right slots but I haven’t tampered with the voltage as of yet, I’ve only applied the docp profile which has just resulted in a blue screen with the error code 0xc000000f

And those be the slots mentioned right? A2/B2, 2nd & 4th slot from cpu?

Check dram voltage is being set to 1.35v when enabling docp.

 

[blookmore]

Again no guarantees. Its not ideal that the 3600 kit you have already has a higher latency over the other 3600 kit but is what it is***. RAM to me is a huge PIA but try:

Settimg your Infinity Fabric (FCLK) manually to 1800 (which is 1:1). Later on if that's not stable, drop it to 1733 which isn't ideal but may be more stable but that's not where you're at yet.
Loosen the timings. Try 19-23-23-44 first. Can try tightening them after you find stable.
RAM voltage to 1.35V , don't go higher than 1.4V, again that's down the line.
Set your SOC voltage to 1.1V
Check what your VDDG is set to. Probably said auto but set to 0.96V

Those timings are very loose and a slight voltage boost but not anything drastic and safe provided your board is good. Again, there's no guarantees my guesstimates will work but it's a start.

***Edit, disregard that. I'm tired and not thinking. The lower timing is for the lower gig kit.

I’ve just tried that and booted, gave me a blue screen saying a required device isn’t connected.

 

[blookmore]

I’ll try this tonight, thanks for your reply.

I’ve just booted it up now and had a different error message saying I’m missing a windows file, entered bios and booted through my ssd with windows on it and it’s worked, only issue is my rams still 2333hz but confused as to why it’s booting through my hard drive when I’ve booted through the ssd before to fix it.

 

[blookmore]

I’ve just booted it up now and had a different error message saying I’m missing a windows file, entered bios and booted through my ssd with windows on it and it’s worked, only issue is my rams still 2333hz but confused as to why it’s booting through my hard drive when I’ve booted through the ssd before to fix it.

I’ve just tried that and booted, gave me a blue screen saying a required device isn’t connected.

Right I think I’ve sorted it lol, I once again booted through my ssd and it’s worked, now sure why it’s defaulted again to the hdd I might just remove the thing as there’s nothing on it.

 

[blookmore]

I’ve just tried that and booted, gave me a blue screen saying a required device isn’t connected.

Weirdly enough it was my hard drive I think, just unplugged it and raised it to 3600mhz and it’s worked!!!! 3 days of stress lol, thankyou all for your help.