News Real-world graphics card prices cost up to twice the MSRP

Despite the extreme annoyance with my GPU arriving via FedEx. It looks like I got really lucky and ordered right in the sweet spot between the old model exiting and everyone waiting for the new model to come in. Got it $10 less than MSRP. Still a rip off price but better than paying scalper prices. Fingers crossed for another 10 years of riding this guy into the ground. 😛
 
It's annoying that these companies are scared of fabbing on 2-3 nodes at once. The 7700 XT would be great if it were in supply and down to $350 for example. By the way, it had an MSRP of $449, not $400. Unless AMD officially cut it or something.
 
I get scalpers taking advantage of people, but retailers!? That's a low blow to the consumer. During the 3000 and 4000 supply issues, you could still pick up from a retailer at MSRP - if you got lucky and got one before they sold out within seconds. Anybody who buys at scalped prices is supporting this madness. STOP IT!! Be patient.

Also don't wait 4 or 5 generations to upgrade, and buy bigger. In the event a new card comes out that you want, you won't be sitting on a GTX 1050 wishing you really had an RTX 5080, and you'll be able to get by with what you have until things settle.
 
I think getting a lower end/used option that's better than what you have is a good idea if you're in an situation where you need a card and can't wait (assuming you can afford this).

I had a GTX 970 and had planned on skipping the 10 series to get 20 series until nvidia decided to reset the pricing structure so I waited until the 30 series launch. When it became rapidly apparent getting a MSRP card was not going to happen I got a 1660 Ti for ~$50 under MSRP. While I was very frustrated that I couldn't just go buy a card when I wanted to long term worked out in my favor as I ended up with a 12GB 3080 instead of either the 10GB or 3070 I was originally intending to.

I do feel bad for anyone with a new build or dead card that needs replacing because current times feel just as bad as the last crypto boom. I think a part of the problem is the additional time between generations. Between people waiting longer to buy cards and the companies trying to match supply to have less generational overlap we're ending up with all sorts of trouble.
 
I get scalpers taking advantage of people, but retailers!? That's a low blow to the consumer. During the 3000 and 4000 supply issues, you could still pick up from a retailer at MSRP - if you got lucky and got one before they sold out within seconds. Anybody who buys at scalped prices is supporting this madness. STOP IT!! Be patient.

Also don't wait 4 or 5 generations to upgrade, and buy bigger. In the event a new card comes out that you want, you won't be sitting on a GTX 1050 wishing you really had an RTX 5080, and you'll be able to get by with what you have until things settle.
It isn't retailers.

If you are used to getting say 4500 of the x70 class cards per month, and Nvida only delivers 450 per month - what are you going to do?

You are going to sell those cards for as much as you can.
 
Looks like I won this contest, picked up a used Intel A750 LE for $110! Card was mint, took a bit of troubleshooting to get it working properly with the i9-9900KF and the gigabyte z390 mobo. Besides the normal ReBar enablement and above 4G decoding, I also had to get my boot working with CSM disabled for some reason, this reddit post was the most helpful in enabling. I find arc is great even on old CPUs, although it is a bit of a gamble on Rebar and getting it to jsut work out of the box. This was a huge step up from the HD 7970 (ancient hand me down upgraded finally).
 
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I was looking for an upgrade, but i made the mistake of selling my 4090, before i could get my hands on a 5090.

I had no spare GPU at my disposal, so i tried using my onboard for a few weeks.

Of course, no decent gaming could be done with that thing.

Eventually, my impatience got the better of me, so paying scalper was the "only" way forward.

Before the release of the RTX-50 series, i was pretty confident that prices and availability would have smoothed out by June, but this scenario now feels like a pipe dream.

GPU market at its worst.

P.S. I know scalper prices are a world-wide trend right now, but, honestly, my country has one of the worst PC markets out there. Some well known vendors in Greece, are currently receiving one 5090 per week - usually every Friday - and they are selling for more than $6,000.

Sweet Jesus! 🙁
 
honestly was anyone shocked by this demand is high

4070 super will be the last gpu from nvidia i will use fed up of there absolute nonsense.

you want to win this just dont buy any new gpus. buy used and give them the finger. that goes for any vendor.

i bought my 4070 super cause i saw what was on the horizon. i however waited for the super series didnt buy any of there right out of the gate buggy crap.

retailers are bumping prices by roughly 30-50 pounds in some cases in uk. and the high end is just a complete fantasy garden of recidivous pricing.
 
Reading this, I can only conclude that the US market is quite a bit more dystopian than what I see in Europe.

For both RTX 50* and RX 9070 series (and the Intel Battlemage) I see no issues with retail availability: all variants are available from stock with several vendors to choose from for each, even RTX 5090 is €2900, including all taxes and tariffs.

I bought a B580 (€300), an RX 9070XT (€900) and an RTX 5070 (€700) over the last few weeks with slightly inflated prices, which is why I just returned the most egregious variant, an RX 9070XT sold at €900 for a full refund today.

It currently sells at €789 (always including taxes) and I preferred to keep the RTX 5070 selling at €649 today, just a tad above EU MSRP of €619. I could still return for another week and buy it again at €50 less, but I don't get minimum wage for my time.

Including the 40* series in any comparison today makes no sense, those cards haven't been produced in months, are quite simply no longer available as new and thus quoted prices are just trailing noise ripples.

eBay may be a social phenomenon or a refuge for the totally desperate, but when retail availability is not an issue, new goods are best bought from e-commerce or retail.

And I am truly shocked that price/feature portals such as geizhals.eu don't seem to be available in the US: evidently you keep hordes of journalists busy digging up "facts" where we can just query an excellent and up-to-date database in all comfort.

I guess some of our social code isn't all that bad.
 
Only in this weird economy can I sell my two year old 4090 for considerably more than I originally paid for it. Nah, I am keeping it.
The proof is in the pudding and eBay quotes are worthless until you've actually sold it at that price.

I am very sure I can't sell mine anywhere near that when I can get an RTX 5090 at €2999.

I find that very comforting, considering how crispy they can get these days...

Not that mine ever gave me any issues other than yearning for AC in the midst of winter.
 
Reading this, I can only conclude that the US market is quite a bit more dystopian than what I see in Europe.

For both RTX 50* and RX 9070 series (and the Intel Battlemage) I see no issues with retail availability: all variants are available from stock with several vendors to choose from for each, even RTX 5090 is €2900, including all taxes and tariffs.

I bought a B580 (€300), an RX 9070XT (€900) and an RTX 5070 (€700) over the last few weeks with slightly inflated prices, which is why I just returned the most egregious variant, an RX 9070XT sold at €900 for a full refund today.

It currently sells at €789 (always including taxes) and I preferred to keep the RTX 5070 selling at €649 today, just a tad above EU MSRP of €619. I could still return for another week and buy it again at €50 less, but I don't get minimum wage for my time.

Including the 40* series in any comparison today makes no sense, those cards haven't been produced in months, are quite simply no longer available as new and thus quoted prices are just trailing noise ripples.

eBay may be a social phenomenon or a refuge for the totally desperate, but when retail availability is not an issue, new goods are best bought from e-commerce or retail.

And I am truly shocked that price/feature portals such as geizhals.eu don't seem to be available in the US: evidently you keep hordes of journalists busy digging up "facts" where we can just query an excellent and up-to-date database in all comfort.

I guess some of our social code isn't all that bad.
I disagree on the 40* series inclusion. That is great info for those of us that have them and are looking to sell (or even not sell and just feel warm and fuzzy that we actually purchased a rare appreciating technology asset).
 
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The proof is in the pudding and eBay quotes are worthless until you've actually sold it at that price.

I am very sure I can't sell mine anywhere near that when I can get an RTX 5090 at €2999.

I find that very comforting, considering how crispy they can get these days...

Not that mine ever gave me any issues other than yearning for AC in the midst of winter.
Oh, you can easily filter on sold listings. I have personally sold past generation cards for more than I originally bought them for (i.e. during the COVID years).
 
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Also don't wait 4 or 5 generations to upgrade, and buy bigger. In the event a new card comes out that you want, you won't be sitting on a GTX 1050 wishing you really had an RTX 5080, and you'll be able to get by with what you have until things settle.
As someone who's currently running a 1080 into the ground, I felt this. 🤣
 
The best option is to buy a console.

Being part of the PC Master Race is going to be expensive going forward.
100% agreed! I mentioned this in another thread and got some flack for saying it. The way the consumer GPU market is heading especially for gamers is making consoles look very attractive in many ways. Microsoft that the next XBOX which supposedly is coming in 2026-27 will have the largest generational leap ever. And the Series X is NO slouch, graphics wise.
 
But a console won’t have the same level of visual quality.

Besides, there’s so much more you can do with a PC.
And I would wager that most gamers probably wouldn't notice it unless both were side by side to make a comparison. And the bigger question would be, is it worth it for the slight graphical fidelity?

We ask ourselves the same question regarding the 5070 Ti vs the 5080. Is the $350 price increase of the 5080 worth a 10-14% bump in performance?

I can tell you as a gamer that it is hard for me to tell the difference between a game running on my PC vs the XBOX Series X or PS5. One example is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 and 2024 and I play those daily. I would have to stare at each to see which one is on it's respective platform. At 4K the game looks incredible both on the Series X and my PC which can run the game in very high-ultra settings. The same with Deathloop on both platforms.

The fidelity debate between PC and console gaming is like the classic taste test between colas. So many when blindfolded could not tell the difference between the samples. Some even got Pepsi vs Coke wrong.

Also something that most people forget is that 90% of the current games are designed around the latest consoles and then ported to the PC. Games that look fantastic on the PS5 struggle on a PC with beefy hardware. So is the bump in fidelity or running a game in 60FPS worth the extra $1000-3000 plus for a high end graphics card? I ask myself that question a lot and i'm an old school gamer going back to the mid 90's.
 
I bought a used 3080 back in August for €400 with the intention of upgrading to a 5080. The fact that there are no 5080s in stock at a reasonable price notwithstanding; I checked out of curiosity and a used 3080 is now going for €500 which makes me feel like I got lucky 😅
 
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