News Recent AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D price action suggests stock is running low ahead of a possible 9800X3D launch

[Admin]

Prices for the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D have been rising globally, with the U.S. seemingly experiencing a supply crunch for this popular gaming chip.

Recent AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D price action suggests stock is running low ahead of a possible 9800X3D launch : Read more

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

CamelCamelCamel shows a fairly stable price around $400 for the 7900X3D since February, and the increase to $450 to me says they're increasing it so that when they cut it by $50 during Prime Big Deal Days in a couple of weeks it appears to be a bigger sale than it is. The 7800X3D going out of stock is to be expected for a more popular, older chip that is getting phased out for a newer generation. I also suspect AMD didn't want too many 7000 series X3D chips hanging around to give people a reason not to buy the 9000 series X3D, as the 5800X3D did for ages to the 7000 series X3D.

 

[jackt]

So will the zen5 x3d process be 3nm ? or maybe there will be another zen5 refresh ?

 

[DavidLejdar]

Uh-oh, possibly just a few weeks now. Might get me an AIO with it. TDP shouldn't be excessive, I suppose. But might as well switch the cooler when switching the CPU.

.... I also suspect AMD didn't want too many 7000 series X3D chips hanging around to give people a reason not to buy the 9000 series X3D, as the 5800X3D did for ages to the 7000 series X3D.

Well, in case of the AM4 socket, there still are many people out there with it. E.g. recently in the forum for Satisfactory, someone complained about stuff running slow, with a huge setup towards end-game. And they have like one of the first AM4 CPUs. So, a simple upgrade to 5800X3D would improve things for them, and cheaper to do just that, than upgrading MB and RAM as well. Whereas in my case, might as well go for 9x00X3D straight away.

So will the zen5 x3d process be 3nm ? or maybe there will be another zen5 refresh ?

Reportedly, Zen 5c is with the 3nm process. All other with 4nm - which is still a step up from Zen 4 (current gen on the AM5 socket).

 

[DS426]

To me, the fastest gaming CPU could actually command a higher price premium -- probably something towards $599 MSRP and still sell pretty well, even if that does push some users down to a 7600X3D or 5800X3D. Remember the days of Intel Extreme Edition CPU's? Yeah, crazy if we factor in inflation but back in the 2000's, enthusiasts could drop a cool $1000 USD on a CPU. Having a halo product that doesn't have a direct competitor means those prices can be commanded.

Call them "greedy Intel" but hey, they made money... not like in *cough cough* recent times, lol.

I'm just looking forward to seeing what other secret sauce changes AMD made to Ryzen 9x003D. It kind of sounds like these would actually be purpose-built, allocated CPU's rather than basically recycled/down-binned EPYC dies, but I could be wrong.

 

[jackt]

Reportedly, Zen 5c is with the 3nm process. All other with 4nm - which is still a step up from Zen 4 (current gen on the AM5 socket).

ok tnx, so the x3d are zen5 ? or zen5c ?

 

[TheHerald]

To me, the fastest gaming CPU could actually command a higher price premium -- probably something towards $599 MSRP and still sell pretty well, even if that does push some users down to a 7600X3D or 5800X3D. Remember the days of Intel Extreme Edition CPU's? Yeah, crazy if we factor in inflation but back in the 2000's, enthusiasts could drop a cool $1000 USD on a CPU. Having a halo product that doesn't have a direct competitor means those prices can be commanded.

Call them "greedy Intel" but hey, they made money... not like in *cough cough* recent times, lol.

I'm just looking forward to seeing what other secret sauce changes AMD made to Ryzen 9x003D. It kind of sounds like these would actually be purpose-built, allocated CPU's rather than basically recycled/down-binned EPYC dies, but I could be wrong.

An extreme edition chip was the fastest in everything, that's why it commanded a premium. More cores, more cache higher clocks. The 7800x 3d is an 8 core chip that's slower than a 250$ i5 in both ST and MT performance, no enthusiast will touch it. Even at its current price, les alone at 599.

 

[DS426]

An extreme edition chip was the fastest in everything, that's why it commanded a premium. More cores, more cache higher clocks. The 7800x 3d is an 8 core chip that's slower than a 250$ i5 in both ST and MT performance, no enthusiast will touch it. Even at its current price, les alone at 599.

No enthusiast will touch it? Enthusiasts include gamers, don't they? Then again, I guess you're somewhat right in that enthusiasts might grab the 7950X3D since it's a little better all-arounder, especially if that cache can be used in applications outside of just gaming.

Yes, Intel EE and AMD X3D isn't an apples-to-apples comparison; I concur that not having a pure winner-at-everything CPU means we haven't seen those top-line prices come back. Things were simpler back then such that just having a chip with pretty much more of everything meant everything went faster.

AMD also had some good runs on the Athlon 64 FX series (prior to Bulldozer), e.g. I think I recall the FX-51 or FX-53 being right up there.

 

[TheHerald]

Enthusiasts include gamers, don't they?

No. There are gamers playing on switch, ps5, ps4, or even a phone. That's not an enthusiast.

Then again, I guess you're somewhat right in that enthusiasts might grab the 7950X3D since it's a little better all-arounder, especially if that cache can be used in applications outside of just gaming.

Indeed, 7950x 3d or 14900k.

You can't charge 599$ for the 7800x 3d cause even non enthusiasts will just grab the 7950x 3d instead.