Question Recommendations for a new 4070 GPU

ringmany

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Hey everyone,

I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card, as mine is currently dying. Constant game crashes, video memory issues, tabs freezing and crashing like 4 times a day.
I have an MSI 1070 which I've had for 4 years.

Here's my current PC specs:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/RingMany/saved/WXCWXL

I'm thinking about getting a 4070, although there's quite a lot of models, I don't know which to pick. Ideally my budget is around £500-600. ($650-750). I haven't built a new PC in 5 years, so I'm pretty hard out of the loop at this stage. Better to upgrade to a super? Are there nay planned upcoming sales or decreases in price to wait for?

Any recommendations on what card to go with? I'll mostly just be playing games on a 1080p monitor, ideally on max settings. Cheers
 

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4070 is pretty beefy for 1080p. Your CPU is a little outdated to run such a card as well, particularly at high FPS in a lot of newer games.

You might want to check on your CPU cooler and temperatures as well, AIO don't last forever. Ideally you should get the system fully troubleshooting before investing in parts for it. As long as you are 100% sure it is the GPU.

Regardless, I would update the BIOS and drop in at least a 5700X. If you want maximum gaming performance without a full upgrade, 5800X3D.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...700x-34-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000926wof

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...deon-rx-7700-xt-12-gb-video-card-11335-04-20g

This can get the job done if you having cooling issues:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...tom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se
 

ringmany

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4070 is pretty beefy for 1080p. Your CPU is a little outdated to run such a card as well, particularly at high FPS in a lot of newer games.

You might want to check on your CPU cooler and temperatures as well, AIO don't last forever. Ideally you should get the system fully troubleshooting before investing in parts for it. As long as you are 100% sure it is the GPU.

Regardless, I would update the BIOS and drop in at least a 5700X. If you want maximum gaming performance without a full upgrade, 5800X3D.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...700x-34-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000926wof

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...deon-rx-7700-xt-12-gb-video-card-11335-04-20g

This can get the job done if you having cooling issues:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...tom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se
Cheers for the suggestions.
Yeah i'll deffo be looking to upgrade the CPU too, it's just because of current issues with PC I need the GPU more urgently. Going crazy with my games and tabs freezing several times a day.

Water loop is pretty good so far. CPU is 43°C and GPU is 45°C

I'm not very familiar with AMD GPU, how are they in comparison to Nvidia?

I've done every possible test I can imagine to try to diagnose the issues. I made a forum on here:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...-and-out-of-video-memory-error.3832786/page-2

I honestly don't know what else to check. Yeah I'd ideally prefer not to spend £500 on a new GPU since my 1070 is currently fine and runs most games on high settings. But at this stage, I'm not 100% certain, but from everything else I've tested, it seems possibly the most likely.
 

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Ah, I remember reading that thread.

Well, it could very well be the CPU as well. the CPU bone connects to the GPU bone after all, quite directly. Your RAM might be fine, but the IO chip on Ryzen has been known go buggy as well. Though it looks like you passed quite a few memtests.

Motherboard BIOS, GPU vBIOS are potential fixes/solutions. Getting the latest drivers for everything. Sometimes just full disassembly and re assembly of a PC can solve unknown issues. Loose PCIe pins, crooked GPUs/Motherboards, excessive GPU sag plus heat cycles can cause GPUs to slip out of the slots ever so slightly. (Happened to me with a GTX285 once, just took re-inserting it to make my visual artifacts disappear)

You did mention viruses and malware that got cleaned up. If you are still experiencing issues, might be a good time for a fresh install. I know that seems daunting with so many drives, but you could buy another SSD and install a fresh OS there and a few choice games. Just to rule out the OS.

1TB NVMe SSD are quite cheap now. You could move your OS to it when you are done testing which is also good. Would speed up things a little.

Motherboard issues are quite tricky to diagnose. 1070 might be fine, but the PCIe traces going to the CPU might be having issues. Or there is a leaky capacitor somewhere causing issues. It does seem like a quality board though, so hard to say.
 

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Since you have a GTX1070 you haven't been using ray-tracing or DLSS the two standout features that RTX cards have.

In pure rasterization, what you are used to, AMD is extremely competitive. And they also have their FSR upscaling which is good enough. Raytracing will go to Nvidia pretty much every time by a large margin. But turning on raytracing is a huge performance hit to all cards. It can look really nice though.

RX 6600 is roughly equivalent to a GTX1080.

7700XT falls a little below the RTX4070 in rasterization, above the RX6800 and 4060Ti variants.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-7700-xt-review/4