Relax, a Cyber War May Never Happen

[Guest]

Huh? Haven't we been living in a sort-of cyber war already in which nations spy on each other and develop more and more sophisticated tools designed for electronic attacks?

Relax, a Cyber War May Never Happen : Read more

 

[shloader]

So long as November 5th happens the way Anonymous says it will I'm all for a little digital bloodshed.

 

[killerclick]

Seeing how Mossad has been killing Iranian nuclear scientists on the street, I don't even know why they bothered with a virus.

 

[stereopsis]

Irrespective of how fatalities are caused, events that cause them are an act of war.

 

[stereopsis]

Just in: government sponsored espionage with MIT radar...

 

[CTT]

Cyber warfare is real, on going, and state sponsored. States just don't attention whore like hacker groups do.

 

[serendipiti]

I suppose war is a term that depends on the target (a whole country with no distinction) and the motivations. Just like Biological, chemical, nuclear wars, cyber war is another kind of war. Getting too orthodox on semantics with cyber-war it makes little sense, after all, crashing 2 planes (terrorism) is an act of war...

 

[zodiacfml]

A nation losing Facebook is an act of war.

 

[amstech]

It depends on what your knowledge level of IT is.
You can design software to damage hardware and case drives holding high-level classified and security based information to be destroyed.

I remember a couple years ago in a class at RIT, there was a malware program that would make drives spin faster at certain times, causing abnormal mount of heat and ruining the platters.

 

[Guest]

@amstech
because security sensitive highly classified information is held online with no backup strategy what so ever.........

@CTT
i believe if state sponsored hacking was taking place what better smokescreen then to use those "attention seeking hacker whores"

@killerclick
it takes years to covertly acquire the materials and then construct a weapons grade centrifuge, whereas it only takes a large sum of money to acquire scientist with the know how to utilize said centrifuge, killing a scientist will sent them back a few months, damaging and destroying the centrifuge can set them back years, now if this was not a covert nuclear program that would be a complete different kettle of fish

 

[Benihana]

Hmm... Sounds like a cyber-war is already on the horizon and this is to pre-emtively convince us otherwise.

 

[back_by_demand]

"May" never happen
...
Phew, that's put our minds at rest, now I can relax

/not

 

[requiemsallure]

this isn't news! this is an opinion of some college kid speculating definitions on new terms and placing too much faith in old terms first of all things change, definitions change... get with the times... second of all this is no blog, last i checked this is suppose to be a news article, so why is something like this even being posted?

and lastly another reason why this shouldn't have been posted is due to the fact that information can always be potentially leathal. lack of information can be too... you also have to remember that leathality also doesn't have to be in regaurds to a person, or even a living thing i.e. (faction, nation, country...)

 

[digitalgriffin]

Lets see him claim the same thing when a Chinese Hacker shuts down the power grid, or worse, damages a nuclear reactor so that it can't get cooling water and goes int meltdown mode.

 

[Guest]

@digitalgriffin

because someone thought it was a smart idea to let you control nuclear reactors from the internet.......

 

[BlackHawk91]

Meanwhile SIRI is gathering everyone's info.

 

[istank]

You want lethal? Disable all traffic signals in New York city during rush hour.

 

[jsc]

The question appears to be whether the definition of "warfare" has to be slightly adjusted in the digital age or not.

No.

Would we call and act that indirectly causes fatalities, such as an attack on a nation's critical infrastructure, an act of war?

Yes.

 

[Guest]

Make no mistake, countries, companies, et al. are enduring a cyber war today. Mr. Rid can "believe" what he likes in the UK. There is no question in the US; the Pentagon has already established that "computer sabotage coming from another country can constitute an act of war, a finding that for the first time opens the door for the U.S. to respond using traditional military force." No need to alter definitions... and YES an attack on a nations' critical infrastructure, fatalities or not is an act of war.

Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355623135782718.html

 

[cybersans]

for those who watched die hard 4.0, this kind of "cyber war" MAY possibly happen 😉
but of course, people need tragedy to be happened first, to make them prepared.

 

[cybersans]

for those who watched die hard 4.0, this kind of "cyber war" MAY possibly happen 😉
but of course, people need tragedy to be happened first, to make them prepared.

 

[dalauder]

The government really needs to get better at Internet security. If these Anti-Sec guys could bring down Google and PayPal if they wanted to, couldn't Chinese hackers? It would be pretty easy to cost the U.S. economy billions if you shut down the top 10 online retailers to the extent PSN network got shut down. Really, the potential for serious damage is huge and cyber sabotage is a much more realistic threat than terrorist bombers.

 

[eddieroolz]

I'd call the current situation worldwide as "cyber ambushes" or "cyber attacks" but not a war.

However, considering how easy it is to bring down some of the most important lifelines in the US (i.e. power grid) I think a rogue nation will happily engage in cyber warfare if required.

 

[cats_Paw]

Sure, lets worry about this. its not like we have any real problems 😀.

 

[hetneo]

The key is what constitutes the "act of war". Historically, in 19th and most of 20th century if ambassador of one country would criticize host country politics and openly suggest what host country government should do was considered open act of war.