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Hello Everyone
I am into 3D Rendering and Image/Video editing (3ds Max, After Effects, Photoshop, vray, corona) After a Long Research i want to build a Workstation for me. I am pretty noob in hardware stuff so i would be very thankful if anyone willing to help.

Cpu - thinking to go with 1950x or 2950x ( as more core will help me in rendering )

Mobo - x399 which one? the 2nd gen is too costly i guess

ram - my main concern i need atleast 3200mhz 64g. will be buying 32gb for now then will upgrade 32gb more in few months.

PSU - ?

Gpu - RTX 2070 or 1080ti ? what will be the best option ?

boot drive - i want the value for money nvme as its the fastest ( samsung 970 evo 256 gb )

Hdd- barcuda 2tb x2

cooler - have no idea about it, will overclock a bit not extreme.

cabinet - ? 50$ budget

do i have to buy any other extra fan for better temperatures? as my system have to work day and night sometimes for rendering. please suggest me the best.

Total budget 3000$ ( Rs 230000) can go little up if its really worth it.
 
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OH NO NO, in india there is soo much dust as well as heat as its one of the hot country i cant use open case neither i want to. whats your take on Cooler Master MASTERCASE H500P Mesh
 
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As far as H500P Mesh goes, it looks like a decent case.
I, personally, would avoid H500P Mesh since with it's predecessor H500P, there has been a lot (and i mean A LOT) of controversy. H500P is basically non-mesh version of H500P Mesh. Gamers Nexus did a great reviews about those cases,
H500P review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRsb4C5gLLc
H500P Mesh review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpfkk4E7eCg

If someone would offer me H500P for free, i wouldn't take it, let alone paying $149 USD for it. You can watch the H500P review to know why. But if you like H500P Mesh, i won't stand in your way.

For RAM, any one of the Memory QVL list would do if you want 100% guarantee that the RAM works with your MoBo. Since TR 2950X is AMD Colfax SP3r2 180W CPU, look the Memory QVL list for that one.

E.g Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x 16GB 3200 Mhz, which is tested by Gigabyte and it's working fine when 2 and 4 RAM slots are populated,
pcpp: https://in.pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/6rrcCJ,KntWGX,YPX2FT/

Oh, with that, you'd get dual-channel and not quad-channel at the beginning. Once you buy the 2nd set, you'd get quad-channel RAM since then, you'd have 4x RAM sticks.
 
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Oh my god i just checked about it there are seriously lots of controversy about H500 series and i got to know now that there are very much multiple version on this series. the one i am talking about is

https://mdcomputers.in/cooler-master-mid-tower-mastercase-h500p-gun-metal-mcm-h500p-mgnn-s10.html

this one is fine ?


 
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While the one you linked is H500P Mesh, which is improved version of H500P, question remains if it's good. E.g if company produces crap product and then improves it, does the new product instantly became great product since it was improved? I don't think so.

Another example as well. Back in 2012, Corsair came out with their CXm series PSUs (green label). Due to poor craftsmanship, those PSUs ended up as low quality units. In 2015, Corsair improved their CXm series PSUs (gray label) and why build quality improved, at best, new CXm series PSUs are mediocre quality units. Still, Corsair CXm series is nowhere near to the superb craftsmanship of Seasonic PSUs.

You can't make gold out of crap.
And that's why, i, personally, would avoid any PC cases in Cooler Master H500 series, be it H500, H500M, H500P or H500P Mesh. But if you think improved version of crap product is worth getting then go for it.
 
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It's an excellent case if you are using the Enermax aio cooler.

But you have to check the cpu cooler height clearance for the noctua and pc o11.

Alternately if you can get the lian li Lan cool one, then you won't have any clearance issues. The Lan cool one is also a very good case.
 
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Choosing a PC case is good headache if you're looking for the perfect case, both appearance wise and feature wise. I had the same ordeal when i was looking for full-tower ATX case for my Skylake build.

While Lian-Li O11 looks interesting due to it's dual-chamber design, it's CPU cooler clearance is only 155mm, meaning that your Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 doesn't fit into there since CPU cooler is 165mm tall.

How about Be Quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 rev. 2? It's one of the few cases that has removable MoBo tray and due to that, you can build your PC in inverted design as well,
specs: https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1472
black, amazon: https://www.amazon.in/quiet-BGW11-Tower-Computer-Chassis/dp/B01H6JO9L8
orange, amazon: https://www.amazon.in/quiet-BGW10-Tower-Computer-Chassis/dp/B01H6JQC0O
silver, amazon: https://www.amazon.in/quiet-BGW12-Dark-Base-Silver/dp/B01H6JP0ES
 
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Don't be sad. As i said long ago in this topic: choosing a PC case is personal choice. Since you're asking our opinion about PC cases, i try to give my opinion based on it's functionality, without considering it's aesthetical appearance.

Corsair 570X is nice looking case but as i said earlier in this topic, i'm not fond with solid front panel cases due to the handicap in airflow. With solid front panel cases, you can't have both: good airflow and low noise. You either have poor airflow and low noise OR good airflow and loud noise. If you don't care about noise (some people don't), pick any solid front panel case you like and which also has at least 165mm of CPU cooler clearance, e.g like the 570X RGB you just linked.

For a tempered glass side panel case, that has mesh front panel and CPU cooler clearance more than 165mm, how about Thermaltake Core X71 TG,
specs: https://www.thermaltake.com/Chassis/Full_Tower_/Core/C_00002998/Core_X71_Tempered_Glass_Edition/Design.htm
shop link: https://mdcomputers.in/thermaltake-mid-tower-core-x71-black-tempered-ca-1f8-00m1wn-02.html

Edit: Just saw that it's out of stock on that site. But it's available on amazon though,
amazon: https://www.amazon.in/Thermaltake-Core-BLACK-TEMPERED-GLASS/dp/B01N4R021Q

For smaller case, which is in stock, you can look towards TT Core X31 TG,
specs: https://www.thermaltake.com/Chassis/Mid_Tower_/Core/C_00002997/Core_X31_Tempered_Glass_Edition/Design.htm
shop link: https://mdcomputers.in/thermaltake-mid-tower-core-x31-black-tempered-ca-1e9-00m1wn-03.html

@Lucky_SLS
What was the budget for the case again? 😀
 
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Yes, i know that H500P Mesh did well cooling wise in Gamers Nexus review. I've watched the video reviews of H500P and H500P Mesh several times.

As i said earlier: "if you think improved version of crap product is worth getting then go for it.".
Case's thermal performance with stock fans isn't the only criteria i consider when looking for a case. Case also needs to have good build quality (which i doubt H500P Mesh has since it's predecessor H500P was crap), good features (those are personal) and good looks (again, personal taste).

I have said it before and i say it again (last time): choosing a PC case is personal choice and go with the case that you like the most. Just because i have my reservations about H500P Mesh and i, personally, would avoid it, doesn't mean it's a bad case and you shouldn't get it. You may be fine with H500P Mesh case (or you may not).

In the forums, people usually pick out the case they like and can afford and then ask if their hardware fits into the case. If there are clearance issues (e.g CPU cooler, GPU length), i state that so they can pick another case. Also, if case has solid front panel then i inform them that frontal airflow is handicapped and for proper airflow, they get more noise out of the PC. Then, it's up to every person to decide if to go with the case they picked out, knowing they get more noise with solid front panel case. Or they go out and choose a different case with mesh front panel, if the noise factor is important to them.
 
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Problem with the above article is that they have locked down the tdp to 180w and are showing us the temperature of the cpu at that 180w and the clock speed sustainable with that cooler design.

So it's quiet evident that silver arrow being a large dual tower cooler with more fin stack/surface area to cool can keep the temperature down better than the noctua and the wraithripper cooler.

It can also give a better sustained clock speed at that tdp cuz it's thermal throttling the cpu less than the other coolers.

See why I am recommending the Enermax liqtech tr4 II 360 aio now? It's cooling capacity is more than the air coolers, a bit less than the xspc raystorm custom loop cooling.

So what does that actually mean? Ur cpu would runner cooler or ur cpu would run faster when compared to using other coolers. Why this is important? A render at 200mhz more on all cores will take significantly less time to complete?

Why the Enermax aio is all the more relevant for this workload? Rendering uses the cpu as much as possible, seeing 100% cpu utilization is very common. So to make the maximum use out of it, rendering the cpu with higher frequency makes more sense. And the Enermax aio will accomplish it.

Just Google how much an overclocked 2950X can consume in a typical render run like cinebench. You would be surprised with the power consumed.
It was also why I was recommending an 850/1000w psu for your build.
 
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i can fully understand your concern that water cooling will give me better performance & unfortunately Enermax is the only one (as per i researched) who covers the full HIS. & there are many users report that it cause the issue even in first gen & sec gen. thats the issue, i am saving from soo long for this system and can't risk it. & silver arrow is not available in india.
 
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I'd say no.
There is a reason why RAM sticks are sold in a set. Do you know why? I take that you don't.

Explanation time:
When RAM DIMMs are made; same make, model, speed, CL and timings RAMs are tested with each other and those sticks that get along well are put into sets. First set to be made is the set of 8x RAM sticks and sold as 8x RAM sticks in a set (e.g 8x 8GB, total of 64GB). If the set of 8 doesn't work, it's divided into half which makes up two sets of 4. If the 4x RAM sticks do work together, the are sold as 4x RAM sticks in a set (e.g 4x 8GB, total of 32GB). But if the set of 4 doesn't work, it's again divided into half, making two sets of 2. Two RAM sticks that work well with each other are sold as 2x RAM sticks in a set (e.g 2x 8GB, total of 16GB). Those RAM sticks that doesn't want to work together at all are sold as single RAM sticks.

So, if you need 4x sticks of RAM, buy the set of 4. Sure you can buy all 4x sticks individually but chances of them all working together would be slim. If you'd get only 2x individual sticks, chances would be 50:50.
 
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ohh dont know this thing, thanks for the explanation. leaning so much of new things now
 
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