Report: AMD CPU Price Drops Incoming; New FX-CPUs

[doomtomb]

Sadly AMD are struggling to compete in the high end CPU market these days. This can cause huge problems. Without any competition Intel would be able to raise their prices without a large performance boost meaning we get worse value for money.

If I had $1 for every time I've seen or heard somebody say this for the past 9 years I'd be a millionaire.

 

[ickibar1234]

Still no high end x86 performance with their mobile chips.

 

[mamasan2000]

I suggest the following:

Name one application where boost/singlecore performance actually matters.

Upping speeds with 100Mhz, you can do that on your CPU now.
Reason why noone does it is because it has minimal effect.
What exactly is new besides the model names?

 

[NeatOman]

So i guess the real story is the FX-8370E/FX-8320E with a TDP of 95watts, letting you drop a 4+ Ghz 8 core chip into a $60 motherboard. Talking a $200 CPU/Motherboard price, which is also the only reason i have a FX-8320@4.5Ghz (got a deal over a year ago with a very nice motherboard for $180).

 

[childofthekorn]

My question really is what's holding AMD back from the dedicated CPU updates? we know they have and have implimented and have next-gen Kaverni/Steamroller architecture, we know they can pare down to more efficient power consumption, is it just that they don't have the resources to push the fabrication down to 22nm? or are they just letting themselves stagnate until 14nm(16nm?) is feasible and skip a die shrink step? Even if they're not fighting i7s with their 8-series FX you'd think they'd still keep pushing out something in AM3+ guise to keep the money flowing. I haven't even heard of stepping improvements that you typically get with chips as they mature, usually giving people less power leakage/OC improvements. is there some sort of engineering powerstruggle arguing internally about how the Phenom2 architecture seemed to have better IPC or what? i mean, SERIOUSLY. no CPU releases = no new product = no new product interest = no new sales. the 8350's a fine chip and a great buy for $160 especially if you already have an older board...but most people on the AM3 platform probably already went to a 6350 or 8350 like LAST YEAR already. and those people aren't going to be shopping FM2 platforms anytime soon to replace their main rig. I know AMD isn't exactly cash-healthy but stagnation isn't going to help.

I'm on a 8120, and loving it, but power consumption is too much for my taste, especially overclocking (constant 4 GHz keeps all games fluid), so I disabled half of it to have an FX 4100. I thought about getting an 8320 for the efficiency improvement, but that would be too little improvement to make the expense worth it.

But now there's an 8320 at 95W stock! That is tempting, and if money allows, I might buy one. Not many people will be interested in these new processors, but there's a market for them. Steamroller would be better, but we do with what we have. :/

From what I'm seeing the Steamroller cores are working exactly the same, and in some benches worse, than Vishera. Waiting on Excavator.

 

[Red_Sun]

That 8370E looks very tempting. The 8350 already clocks up very well. Imagine the extra overclocking room with the lower TDP. This could be very interesting for enthusiasts.

This. I was patiently waiting to see if I could be enticed to upgrade from my Phenom 980 (which, mind you, I really won't need to do for some time yet) to a 8350 *IF* the price was right (cue Bob Barker quote). I am really curious how they got the same clocks with its similarly priced counterpart, what it is capable of, and is it a sign their engineering team is finally going in the right direct and getting TDP under control?

 

[childofthekorn]

I suggest the following:

Name one application where boost/singlecore performance actually matters.

Upping speeds with 100Mhz, you can do that on your CPU now.
Reason why noone does it is because it has minimal effect.
What exactly is new besides the model names?

TDP

 

[sonofliberty08]

AMD, save your resource and put more R&D on increasing the APU performace, i have lost interest on FX line until it is replace with new architecture, maybe replace the bulldozer core with the jaguar core or even 64bit ARM core

 

[Chris Droste]

maybe they just need to stop naming their chip architecture after things that dig holes, they're in quite the hole as it is

maybe something based on their percieved speed? like sprint, dragster...I'd totally buy an AMD "Plaid" chip xD

 

[vdraconus]

I was looking to upgrade from my 6300 to a 8350 but I may wait a bit now.

The question i really have from this is what is the REAL difference between the 8370 and the 8370E? Seems kind of strange that AMD would bother to release 2 versions of the same cpu at the same time, same price, with different TDP values. Normally that's something that happens over time, with a new cpu revision.

As it stands I now would chose the 8370E, though I am hoping that TH can get their hands on them and do a side by side.

 

[vdraconus]

maybe they just need to stop naming their chip architecture after things that dig holes, they're in quite the hole as it is

maybe something based on their percieved speed? like sprint, dragster...I'd totally buy an AMD "Plaid" chip xD

Skipping the "Ludicrous" chip and going "Plaid"... Sounds like a risky business decision.

 

[sr1030nx]

I was looking to upgrade from my 6300 to a 8350 but I may wait a bit now.

The question i really have from this is what is the REAL difference between the 8370 and the 8370E? Seems kind of strange that AMD would bother to release 2 versions of the same cpu at the same time, same price, with different TDP values. Normally that's something that happens over time, with a new cpu revision.

As it stands I now would chose the 8370E, though I am hoping that TH can get their hands on them and do a side by side.

The difference is most likely that the 8370's couldn't meet the lower tdp of the 8370e.

 

[Chris Droste]

I was looking to upgrade from my 6300 to a 8350 but I may wait a bit now.

The question i really have from this is what is the REAL difference between the 8370 and the 8370E? Seems kind of strange that AMD would bother to release 2 versions of the same cpu at the same time, same price, with different TDP values. Normally that's something that happens over time, with a new cpu revision.

As it stands I now would chose the 8370E, though I am hoping that TH can get their hands on them and do a side by side.

my guess is that the 8370e will not be a Black edition and the regular 8370 with the higher TDP will be unlocked. just a guess, though, because fitting that 95w TDP would be excellent for older boards

 

[vdraconus]

I was looking to upgrade from my 6300 to a 8350 but I may wait a bit now.

The question i really have from this is what is the REAL difference between the 8370 and the 8370E? Seems kind of strange that AMD would bother to release 2 versions of the same cpu at the same time, same price, with different TDP values. Normally that's something that happens over time, with a new cpu revision.

As it stands I now would chose the 8370E, though I am hoping that TH can get their hands on them and do a side by side.

my guess is that the 8370e will not be a Black edition and the regular 8370 with the higher TDP will be unlocked. just a guess, though, because fitting that 95w TDP would be excellent for older boards

No... I think AMD said when FX was announced that they were all unlocked. Having one version that is locked would certainly make no sense.

 

[Chris Droste]

yeah, i didn't read the chart on the CPU before answering then it got busy here so i forgot to jump in and fix my comment. thanks!