Report: AMD's Next-Gen "Hawaii" GPU to Launch in October

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hope they get the tdp down somehow, hopign with 20nm or maybe if they foudn a way to lower it with this to do a sub 200 watt full draw mid grade gaming rig mid next year
 


nvidia will not hold back the next series just because they just coming out with current series. they will introduce the new series when they think there is a need to. just look what happen to 400 series and 500 series. GTX480 comes out in march 2010. then in november 2010 they start rolling out GTX580
 
Tripple monitor setups are so cheap now that graphics cards need to be tailored for 5760x1080 resolutions , Even a 16:9 21:9 16:9 tripple monitor setup ,
 
Looking forward to the next Amd cards, currently running nVidia but are brand agnostic. Whoever brings the best performance and stability in sli/cf config will earn my dollars.

Judging by this forum it seems to be very few brand agnostics left?
 


agreed
 
Hmm... 600$ AMD card... It would be guite big change for AMD to make that expensive card, but when Nvidia cards can cost something like 1000$... maybe. All in all I still believe that AMD will stay in smaller chip sizes, because it is more economical and make new douple GPU card to compete with Titan series. There is still time for AMD to tinker their drivers for multi GPU usage. If Hawaii is coming out October, it wont have hardware based multi GPU solution like Nvidia have so they have to rely on drivers in this release. Maybe the next generation after Hawaii will allso have hardware component, but I am not an expert of GPU development, so I don't know how much time it will take to implement new features to GPU, maybe even one year is not enough?
Allso october release could mean 28nm production node. Maybe we will see 20nm refress later, but it seems to be too early to competative 20nm production at this moment. Ofcourse if the 600$ price is accurate, then is allso 20nm production node possible. Those 20nm chips are gonna be expensive in the beginning of production with that node. It allso means that some time in the future, there will be similar refresh like GHz edition was, when development in the production allows higher clocks!

This would mean low clock Hawaii ships in october, higher clock Nvidia chips in the spring and higher version Hawaii ships in the next year after the summer or near the next holiday season.
 
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/display/20130806234800_TSMC_Slightly_Reschedules_Volume_Production_Using_20nm_Process_Technology_to_Early_2014.html

The story at videocardz is a bit off. Volume 20nm production starts in FEB at TSMC and another fab coming online for the same volume production in may.

So if you're pumping out volumes of maxwell in feb, you should be able to get cards out in march or so I guess. I really can't see anyone making another 28nm launch if it's after xmas. You are not going to make things go faster without pushing us up above 400w etc on a single card...LOL. You need a die shrink or any other launches are wasted and will gain next to nothing. I call any "NEXT GEN" that doesn't get 50% pointless. Next gen is supposed to be maxwell. You can't have anything but a re-spin on 28nm at this point. This has to be 20nm and if not they need to delay a few months to make sure it IS 20nm. I'd rather have 20nm in june if it's 28nm in march.

Edit: Maybe they'll release low end stuff on 28 and the higher end on 20 a few months later. It would be easier to figure this all out if we knew exactly how much TSMC production would be 20nm in Q1. But they don't offer that 😉 Also, if hawaii is any good, I guess they'd be forced to answer at 28nm like it or not. You can't just sit and let your enemy take market share.
 


It is two GPU core card, so guite common solution to AMD. 🙂 What I mean was that we see as small as possible GPU, so single GPU cards are most propably cheaper than that, but as i said 20nm production node can change that too... so it may actually cost that much in the beginning, if the binning is hard and you get guite few working chips.
 


It also cost a lot more than $600 when released, big change huh?
 
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