Are they really going to be that cheap? I wish I could believe this.
Prices are in line with Ivy Bridge, and seeing how the relative improvements in performance are significantly smaller than 5-6 years ago, I think this is pretty expensive.
Considering how much more expensive Intel tends to be relative to AMD, I'd say one of three things are happening here;
A. Intel is conceding smaller margins because the step up in performance is not as significant.
B. Intel is trying to put pressure on AMD by pricing much closer to them.
C. These leaked prices are false.
Cheap? These prices are exactly in line with Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge before them.
3 years with no significant change in performance per dollar. That is truly disappointing.
What's the point? Until they figure out a way to bust through 4, 5 , 6 GHz stock there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. No (decently made) game is CPU bottlenecked and the pipelines of the Ivy bridge aren't even close to being fully utilized.
What's the point? Until they figure out a way to bust through 4, 5 , 6 GHz stock there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. No (decently made) game is CPU bottlenecked and the pipelines of the Ivy bridge aren't even close to being fully utilized.
Considering how much more expensive Intel tends to be relative to AMD, I'd say one of three things are happening here;
A. Intel is conceding smaller margins because the step up in performance is not as significant.
B. Intel is trying to put pressure on AMD by pricing much closer to them. C. These leaked prices are false.
Correct Answer: C
Intel has been talking about an across the board +$30 price increase for Haswell. Those prices are basically where the IB chips are being sold today. Can't see it. They raised their prices $15 across the board for IB... i can't see them sticking to the same prices for Haswell
Either way I am happy for this news. I am waiting for Haswell to come out to replace my AMD Phenom II build that is really getting long in the tooth. If I can get new Haswell and Z87 parts for around the same price as IB and Z77 parts then thats good for me.
As someone who has a Core 2 Quad, I could definitely see myself spending the money to upgrade. Most of you commenting probably already have newer processors than I do, so upgrading for you might not make sense, but for me it does!
As someone who has a Core 2 Quad, I could definitely see myself spending the money to upgrade. Most of you commenting probably already have newer processors than I do, so upgrading for you might not make sense, but for me it does!
i've got a PhII x4 965... unless the haswell is a nice jump in performance i think i'll skip upgrading again. right now this chip is basically indistinguishable outside of benchmarks from an i5-3570k... until i see a chip that is noticeably better i'll stick with this warhorse.
I'm not sure why everyone in here is thinking Intel is doing any of this to battle AMD. They are not. Intel is trying to get the performance per watt to a point that they can compete with ARM.
That's why you see the same clock speeds for 4 years now (3.5 GHz at the high end). While wattage has dropped more then 50% (not TDP, actual wattage).
Intel is probably one gen away from hitting the point that watt for watt they can complete with ARM, so I would expect to see this same line up for Broadwell as well.
Once again, people flooding the comments section with claims of no improvement from Intel and a steady price, expecting them to cut prices and take a hit on profits despite a lack of compettition forcing them to do so.
Heck, ever since IVB all i've been reading is people claiming that the next i7 will be north of $350.
Today, a core i3 meets or beats my Core 2 Quad Q8400 in almost everything, despite my CPU being a $200 part (more, at launch).
borisof007 :
As someone who has a Core 2 Quad, I could definitely see myself spending the money to upgrade. Most of you commenting probably already have newer processors than I do, so upgrading for you might not make sense, but for me it does!
Exactly, same here. Will probably get a 4770K, if finances work out.
jamesjones_det :
I'm not sure why everyone in here is thinking Intel is doing any of this to battle AMD. They are not. Intel is trying to get the performance per watt to a point that they can compete with ARM.
That's why you see the same clock speeds for 4 years now (3.5 GHz at the high end). While wattage has dropped more then 50% (not TDP, actual wattage).
Intel is probably one gen away from hitting the point that watt for watt they can complete with ARM, so I would expect to see this same line up for Broadwell as well.
Again, +1. It's like half the Tom's community refuses to read most of the analysis articles...though AnandTech is usually more in-depth with Intel-related stuff.
These prices are neither expensive nor cheap. Though it is disappointing that the prices are remaining static compared to ivy bridge. In that sense they are expensive, in the tech world prices are supposed to go down over time but sandy ivy and haswell has remained flat on price.