Report: Upcoming Intel 9-Series Chipsets May Not Support Current Haswell CPUs

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Every gen has a refresh ~6 months after launch, and this typically includes a bunch of new SKU's with slightly bumped clockspeeds, otherwise they are identical. Nothing special there.As far as the 9-series chipset supporting DDR4, this is only true for the Haswell-E chipset, X99.

Gotta love thread necromancy.

I do not remember seeing significant "refresh" activity with Sandy and Ivy lines. Incremental respins/steppings to improve yields may occur more often than once a year and usually slot directly into the same model numbers just with different SKUs. This is the first time in a very long time (if ever) that a formal refresh fills a lull in the product development, announcement and launch cycle.

As for "chipsets supporting DDR4", the chipset is completely oblivious to what sort of memory is in the system since it accesses it through the CPU's integrated memory controller as either a flat or mapped memory address space so the notion of chipset DRAM support is completely erroneous/outdated... the chipset "supports" whatever the CPU has. Since the article's original publication back in AUGUST, it has been clarified that Haswell/Broadwell will be/remain DDR3 while Haswell/Broadwell-E will be DDR4.

Socket-wise, the mobile variants (BGA and PGA) should launch in H1-2014 while the LGA desktop variants (Broadwell-K) might launch in either Q4-2014 or Q1-2015. If Intel's launch plans for Skylake remain on-target as they claimed when they announced the mobile Broadwell slip, that means Broadwell-K may have a ~6 months retail marketing window before getting displaced.

Price-wise, Broadwell-K rumors say Iris Pro (128MB L4 cache) will be standard on those and on Haswell, that means $400+ price tags for mobile chips or a ~$80 premium over nearest non-Pro equivalents so I am expecting Broadwell-K to start at ~$300 for the hypothetical i5-5670k. Current Skylake rumors also seem to indicate Iris Pro could be standard on those too. I can imagine enthusiasts who do not want to step up from mainstream desktop to LGA2011 or whatever may follow starting to fume at being forced to pay an extra $80 IGP tax for K-chips.

 

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Every gen has a refresh ~6 months after launch, and this typically includes a bunch of new SKU's with slightly bumped clockspeeds, otherwise they are identical. Nothing special there.As far as the 9-series chipset supporting DDR4, this is only true for the Haswell-E chipset, X99.

Gotta love thread necromancy.

I do not remember seeing significant "refresh" activity with Sandy and Ivy lines. Incremental respins/steppings to improve yields may occur more often than once a year and usually slot directly into the same model numbers just with different SKUs. This is the first time in a very long time (if ever) that a formal refresh fills a lull in the product development, announcement and launch cycle.

As for "chipsets supporting DDR4", the chipset is completely oblivious to what sort of memory is in the system since it accesses it through the CPU's integrated memory controller as either a flat or mapped memory address space so the notion of chipset DRAM support is completely erroneous/outdated... the chipset "supports" whatever the CPU has. Since the article's original publication back in AUGUST, it has been clarified that Haswell/Broadwell will be/remain DDR3 while Haswell/Broadwell-E will be DDR4.

Socket-wise, the mobile variants (BGA and PGA) should launch in H1-2014 while the LGA desktop variants (Broadwell-K) might launch in either Q4-2014 or Q1-2015. If Intel's launch plans for Skylake remain on-target as they claimed when they announced the mobile Broadwell slip, that means Broadwell-K may have a ~6 months retail marketing window before getting displaced.

Price-wise, Broadwell-K rumors say Iris Pro (128MB L4 cache) will be standard on those and on Haswell, that means $400+ price tags for mobile chips or a ~$80 premium over nearest non-Pro equivalents so I am expecting Broadwell-K to start at ~$300 for the hypothetical i5-5670k. Current Skylake rumors also seem to indicate Iris Pro could be standard on those too. I can imagine enthusiasts who do not want to step up from mainstream desktop to LGA2011 or whatever may follow starting to fume at being forced to pay an extra $80 IGP tax for K-chips.

You're right, this thread is way old, hah I wasn't paying attention.

Yeah the chipsets don't run the RAM of course. I meant to talk about each platform (cpu/chipset/etc) not just the chipset by itself, but yeah I didn't quite mention that.

Also, as far as the refreshes on Sandy and Ivy, they are mostly visible in the mobile lineups, for sandy you had the main bunch released about 2011/Q1 (ex 2920XM) and then the refresh SKU's on 2011/Q3 (ex 2960XM) and similar with Ivy, first bunch in 2012/Early Q2 (ex 3920XM) and then the refresh in 2012/Late Q3(ex 3940XM).