Question Ride out pci-e 3.0 or Cpu swap?

[instawookie]

Current system is listed below. I'm fairly happy with how my current system performs but wondering what else I could get out of it if I swapped to say an 11700k or 11900k? is that even worth to enable pci-e 4.0 or Do I swap to a 12th gen/13th gen and a new MB while keeping my ddr4 memory if that's plausible. Currently it runs 130/140 fps easy on my 4k monitor in Forza and Red dead 2 is about the same. I'm more so just curious if I could get it stick to 144 fps by a simple MB/CPU swap or just even a CPU swap to enable pci-e 4.0.

10700k w/ H150i aio
32 gigs of ddr4 3600
1000w evga supernova
Aorus Master Z-490
970 pro m.2
Gigabyte OC 4090
Case; Phantek Enthoo Pro

Monitor's
Aorus Fv43u
Gigabyte G27QC

 

[Zerk2012]

Current system is listed below. I'm fairly happy with how my current system performs but wondering what else I could get out of it if I swapped to say an 11700k or 11900k? is that even worth to enable pci-e 4.0 or Do I swap to a 12th gen/13th gen and a new MB while keeping my ddr4 memory if that's plausible. Currently it runs 130/140 fps easy on my 4k monitor in Forza and Red dead 2 is about the same. I'm more so just curious if I could get it stick to 144 fps by a simple MB/CPU swap or just even a CPU swap to enable pci-e 4.0.

10700k w/ H150i aio
32 gigs of ddr4 3600
1000w evga supernova
Aorus Master Z-490
970 pro m.2
Gigabyte OC 4090
Case; Phantek Enthoo Pro

Monitor's
Aorus Fv43u
Gigabyte G27QC

This is cyberpunk in 4K almost no difference.
https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-ge...s-scaling/images/cyberpunk-2077-3840-2160.png

 

[sizzling]

This is cyberpunk in 4K almost no difference.
https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-ge...s-scaling/images/cyberpunk-2077-3840-2160.png

Interesting. Did they say if resizable bar was off for all tests?

 

[instawookie]

This is cyberpunk in 4K almost no difference.
https://tpucdn.com/review/nvidia-ge...s-scaling/images/cyberpunk-2077-3840-2160.png

Yea I've watched tons of videos and comparisons the best I believe was a 5700x vs 10700k vs 11700k comparison with 32 games. I'm just torn and hate parts not matching to what they're capable of, trying to find more value out of it I guess you could say.

 

[Zerk2012]

Interesting. Did they say if resizable bar was off for all tests?

Never said as far as I know here is the original artical.
I was just showing the very small difference 4.0 makes.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 PCI-Express Scaling

The new NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 is a graphics card powerhouse, but what happens when you run it on a PCI-Express 4.0 x8 bus? In our mini-review we've also tested various PCI-Express 3.0, 2.0 and 1.1 configs to get a feel for how FPS scales with bandwidth.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Eximo]

I'm sticking with my 10900F, at least until Ryzen 7000 with 3D vcache. Then I will decide if an upgrade is worthwhile.

I see no reason to jump to the 11700K just to get PCIe 4.0. (I even have a PCIe 4.0 drive at the moment, running at 3.0) Just so little difference in practice.

PCIe 5.0, DDR5, and maybe a new USB 4 port might sway me in a few years.

 

[geofelt]

I9-11900k looks to be about a 10% boost in cpu capability.
I would not bother.

I5-13600K is a big boost, on the order of 50%.
You would need a X690 or Z790 based motherboard with DDR4 support.
Your ram can be reused and will work well.

 

[instawookie]

I9-11900k looks to be about a 10% boost in cpu capability.
I would not bother.

I5-13600K is a big boost, on the order of 50%.
You would need a X690 or Z790 based motherboard with DDR4 support.
Your ram can be reused and will work well.

Yea, I'm leaning towards a 12 or 13th gen pretty hard now, Gigabyte has a few z790 boards in the 200-300 dollar range I'd be ok with. Hopefully some cpu deals pop up black friday, now its more of a debate of will my PSU be fine if I do commit to the 13th gen.

 

[geofelt]

The psu you need is largely determined by the graphics card.
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

 

[junglist724]

Lets all just pretend 11th gen doesn't exist.

 

[Why_Me]

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Intel Core i7-12700F $329.99

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-25m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz/specifications.html

i7 12700 / 12700F gaming benchmarks.

 

[instawookie]

Lets all just pretend 11th gen doesn't exist.

lol I can't sell myself on the 11900k , I know its the easiest option I just feel like the 12th gen gap in performance is night and day.

 

[junglist724]

lol I can't sell myself on the 11900k , I know its the easiest option I just feel like the 12th gen gap in performance is night and day.

I was being completely serious. 11th gen is so garbage that some reviewers haven't bothered including it in benchmarks anymore.

 

[Eximo]

11900K is not worth it either, just get an 11700K and overclock it to the same frequency. It really was a dud generation. I bought into 10th gen after 11th gen came out. The discounts on the previous generation were too much to pass up. Other reason was that in certain games and applications the 20MB of cache the 10900/10850K/10900K has actually allowed it to do better. Which is where AMD and Intel are diving into, a battle for who can cram the most cache on a chip.