News Rocket Lake Eight Core CPU Is A Strong Rival For Ryzen 7 5800X

[Deleted member 14196]

Yes I also am very tired of the Intel fan boy PS. Seems like they can’t understand when they’ve been beaten. If you love that company so much go buy their OLD garbage

 

[jeremyj_83]

With that logic how much power does ryzen draw?
PBO on the 3900x has an upper limit of 1200W ...
The upper limit is not the normal power draw and does not tell you how much power the most power hungry software will use.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3491-explaining-precision-boost-overdrive-benchmarks-auto-oc
" On the Gigabyte X570 Master with the 3900X, PBO limits were as follows: PPT 1200W, TDC 540A, and EDC 600A. "

When you just drop a Ryzen into the motherboard, for the 65W TDP it will be an upper limit of 88W Package Power Tracking (PPT) and the 105W TDP upper limit is 142W PPT. PBO IS NOT enabled by default so that is out of scope of what we are talking about. However, even with PBO enable the Ryzens draw far less power than Intel CPUs. Worst case for the 5600X with PBO enabled is 97W during y-cruncher multi-threaded with AVX. For that amount of power the 6c/12t 5600X has better performance than a stock 8c/16t 10700K and is within 5% of the 10700K @ 5.1GHz all while drawing MASSIVELY less power. What those motherboard manufactorers are saying with those insane PPT numbers is just that with PBO the chip can run at unlimited turbo frequencies. The difference is that AMD chips have already been binned to run at near peak performance even without PBO enabled. This is why you don't get as much of a performance boost on AMD CPUs when you OC compared to Intel.

As I stated earlier, 99% of people will drop their CPU into their motherboard and at best enable RAM XMP in BIOS and that's all. They will not take the time to go disable all the stuff that the motherboard manufacturers enable by default on Intel CPUs, including the near unlimited turbo. That is why the Intel CPUs are drawing insane amounts of power when you just drop in the CPU. That said even the worst case scenario for AMD compared to best case for Intel shows how inefficient the Core architecture is with more than 4 cores.

 

[Phaaze88]

Or you know, don't, because it never ends anyway.

 

[TerryLaze]

As I stated earlier, 99% of people will drop their CPU into their motherboard and at best enable RAM XMP in BIOS and that's all. They will not take the time to go disable all the stuff that the motherboard manufacturers enable by default on Intel CPUs, including the near unlimited turbo. That is why the Intel CPUs are drawing insane amounts of power when you just drop in the CPU.

So anybody just buying a motherboard randomly without any research and without looking at a single board bench, my guess would be that that person doesn't care about power draw.
Anybody that cares about power draw but can't be bothered to get into bios can look at mobo comparisons and get a low power one.
So what exactly is the big problem here?
You guys are trying to make it out as if no matter what you do you will 300W + power draw on an intel chip and that's just nonsense if you get a reasonable board you will get very low power draw.

 

[Conahl]

So anybody just buying a motherboard randomly without any research and without looking at a single board bench, my guess would be that that person doesn't care about power draw.

or, doesnt know how to tweak the bios like you say to do, or will just set the ram to XMP, and leave it at that, cause thats all they may know how to do.

You guys are trying to make it out as if no matter what you do you will 300W + power draw on an intel chip and that's just nonsense if you get a reasonable board you will get very low power draw.

and you are trying to do the exact opposite. and claim that intel uses less power over all then AMD, which is false, practically every review and reviewer i have read, ( and toms has said it as well) or watched all say the same, intel users more power then amd, in some cases, quite a bit more., the ONLY one that seems to think other wise, is YOU. maybe you just cant handle the fact that your beloved intel, isnt the best cpu any more when it comes to, well, everything.
sorry to say, but the more you post TerryLaze, the more you come across as an intel fan boy, and your posts in this thread, show it quite a bit.

 

[JayNor]

Looks like 10ESF is going to be pretty good. Otherwise Los Alamos wouldn't be doing testimonials for a Crossroads supercomputer built with Sapphire Rapids.

Also, Xe-HP on 10ESF has already demoed 42 TFlop FP32 and is already installed at Argonne.

Looks like an 8 core 10ESF Alder Lake-S, with Golden Cove cores and PCIE5 IO and DDR5 memory will jump ahead of AMD's features.

I suppose Intel needs Rocket Lake-S to fill desktop demand that 10ESF can't fill while still ramping up the process. 10ESF must be doing better than expected, with Sapphire Rapids, Xe-HP and Alder Lake all sampling already.

Tiger Lake-H, with 8 cores, is also something to consider, if the rumors are true about it being paired with Xe-HPG game chips.