Question Rog Strix B850-E versus Rog Strix X870E-E ?

[mahmoudkito]

Guys I am looking for an Asus board for a Ryzen 7 9800X3D.

I am very confused between the Rog Strix B850-E and the Rog Strix X870E-E

I am leaning towards the B850-E but I am not sure it can overclock the 9800X3D as good as the X870E-E.
For me the B850-E has all the features that the X870E-E offers except AI cooling.
Is it a big deal or it should be fine that the B850-E doesn't have AI cooling and it's also cheaper by 150 dollars. So which one to go with and I want an Asus board not any other make.

 

[Hellfire13]

What AI cooling does is adjust the fan curve as per temps, something that you can do manually if you dont want to spend extra. People have been doing it manually till now, so no big deal..

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include some "requirements".

What do you need the "board" to do?

More details needed.

If your use of "ai" means Artificial Intelligence then I would be wary about some buzz word marketing trap.

And specifically why do you want ASUS?

 

[mahmoudkito]

What AI cooling does is adjust the fan curve as per temps, something that you can do manually if you dont want to spend extra. People have been doing it manually till now, so no big deal..

And in terms of overclocking will the b give the Same overclocking performance as the X board

 

[mahmoudkito]

Update your post to include some "requirements".

What do you need the "board" to do?

More details needed.

If your use of "ai" means Artificial Intelligence then I would be wary about some buzz word marketing trap.

And specifically why do you want ASUS?

Update your post to include some "requirements".

What do you need the "board" to do?

More details needed.

If your use of "ai" means Artificial Intelligence then I would be wary about some buzz word marketing trap.

And specifically why do you want ASUS?

I want to get maximum overclocking performance from the board and I want Asus because it has good software and the best audio for immersion in gaming

 

[Ralston18]

How do you define "maximum overclocking performance", "good software", and "best audio"?

Quantify.

Measurable.

 

[CountMike]

I want to get maximum overclocking performance from the board and I want Asus because it has good software and the best audio for immersion in gaming

You don't need to overclock those CPUs, they already are at top performance, just have to be tuned properly. Any B or X MB would have enough power and options enough to do it. Even 8+4+1 VRM can push up to 180W which is more than enough.
There are enough optimization guides like this one for instance.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJd7OrOy0A

 

[mahmoudkito]

You don't need to overclock those CPUs, they already are at top performance, just have to be tuned properly. Any B or X MB would have enough power and options enough to do it. Even 8+4+1 VRM can push up to 180W which is more than enough.
There are enough optimization guides like this one for instance.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJd7OrOy0A

So you suggest that i get the b850e and save the 150 dollars

 

[CountMike]

So you suggest that i get the b850e and save the 150 dollars

Yes, as far as CPU is concerned. X870 have better chipset options though, More USB, even USB4 and more PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 lanes, if you need them. Actually that just about only things that makes them better than B650/X670 MBs.

 

[mahmoudkito]

Yes, as far as CPU is concerned. X870 have better chipset options though, More USB, even USB4 and more PCIe 4.0 and 5.0 lanes, if you need them. Actually that just about only things that makes them better than B650/X670 MBs.

But in the bios menu will the b850e have the same oc options for ram and CPU as the x870e-e?

 

[CountMike]

But in the bios menu will the b850e have the same oc options for ram and CPU as the x870e-e?

Yes with MBs from same company.

 

[mahmoudkito]

Yes with MBs from same company.

I don't need the extra usb ports on the x870e-e and I think in terms of m.2 slots lane sharing with pcie 5 x16 the b850e and x870e e are the same in this matter

 

[CountMike]

I don't need the extra usb ports on the x870e-e and I think in terms of m.2 slots lane sharing with pcie 5 x16 the b850e and x870e e are the same in this matter

Actually, only first M.2 NVMe matters and there are no problems with that and GPU.

 

[mahmoudkito]

Actually, only first M.2 NVMe matters and there are no problems with that and GPU.

So after all the info I provided you suggest that I get the b850e or the x870e-e

 

[Hellfire13]

Here is a comprehensive features list of the different AM5 chipsets...

Guide to AMD Ryzen AM5 Motherboard Chipsets

When choosing a motherboard for your Ryzen CPU, you'll find options like X870, B650, A620, and the new B850 and B840. This guide explains the chipset differences...

www.techspot.com

I wont say you will be missing much with B850e.

 

[JayGau]

Actually, only first M.2 NVMe matters and there are no problems with that and GPU.

What does this even mean? They all matter, especially if you need multiple drives. There are 5x M.2 slots on the Strix X870E-E and only one shares lanes with the GPU, so I avoid putting any drive on this one, but all the four others are fine.

And if you are talking about this lanes-to-cpu vs lanes-to-chipset, no human beign on the planet could ever notice the difference. We can't even feel the difference between gen 3 and gen 4, so forget about CPU vs chipset lanes.

 

[JayGau]

You would likely have better stability with CPU overclocking and faster RAM with the X870. But it really depends how far you want to go with that. In real life situation you are not going see much difference though. Overclocking might give you 3-4% improvement, nothing that will astonish you while using the computer, beside seeing slightly higher numbers in benchmarks.

I personally always buy the X boards because I need the extra USB ports and they are generally better quality and more stable. But if the extra 150$ is a big deal for you then you might be just fine with the B850.

 

[CountMike]

What does this even mean? They all matter, especially if you need multiple drives. There are 5x M.2 slots on the Strix X870E-E and only one shares lanes with the GPU, so I avoid putting any drive on this one, but all the four others are fine.

And if you are talking about this lanes-to-cpu vs lanes-to-chipset, no human beign on the planet could ever notice the difference. We can't even feel the difference between gen 3 and gen 4, so forget about CPU vs chipset lanes.

I meant that there are enough fast PCIE lanes from CPU to cover PCIe x16 slot for GPU and first M.2 NVMe for all to work at full speed because your OS and programs should be on it to make full use of them. Those and RAM are very center of your PC and it's performance., everything else is just add-ons and comes from chipset, If your PC consisted of only those parts it would have exactly same performance as with anything that comes from chipset.
As for PCIe lanes, each generation doubles the bandwidth/speed/frequency of previous one and it's up to devises connected to them to use it or not. It doesn't matter that they are from chipset, same generation has same speed, from CPU or chipset.
NVMe also runs of PCIe lanes and it's performance also follows same generation bandwidth/performance doubling.

 

[QyInvoLing]

Pick x670e gene for overclocking.