[SOLVED] Rough ETA on 10th gen Intel Desktop?

[Gintama69]

Hey anyone have rough idea on when 10th gen Intel desktop processors(10900K, 10700K etc) will get released?
Do you think 10900K would be noticeably cheaper than 10900X?
Do you think it's worth buying 10700K/10900K despite it being 14++++ doesn't really offer any(or much) performance increase over 9900K in games etc?

 

[alceryes]

Expect an announcement end of this month is all I've heard.

 

[Deicidium369]

Between tomorrow and some time in the future.

I heard May for a release... Comet Lake is an abortion, I am waiting on Rocket Lake-S and the 500 series chipset - towards the end of the year

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

I wont upgrade to the 10th gen because my 9900K still fast cpu for me and run my games smoothly and well only upgrade if they make one thats really good enough but we find out soon anyway!

 

[Phaaze88]

1)Nope.
2)Not really, considering the cost of both platforms. A decent X299 board is going to run you around 300USD or higher, that cpu will need a liquid cooler, plus the cost of quad channel memory.
A decent 9900K mobo can be had around 200USD or higher, cpu also needs a liquid cooler... I suspect the overall cost of the 10th gen to sit between these 2.

3)This is a question only you can really answer, because each individual concept of worth varies.
The nitty-gritty of what the 10900K will be: more cores, more speed, more heat.
IMO, that's not worth it. The heat output on the 8th gen cpus was already getting dumb. Then it got absurd with 9th gen.

 

[Gintama69]

Cool thank you for the info, alceryes.

Yeah I already know 10900K isn't really much upgrade from 9th gen.. but I've already sold my 9900KS and 9900K's while ago so I don't wanna buy another 9th gen.
I haven't skipped any gen since 4th(except 6th cos I went for 5775C over 6700K) but I might skip the 10th if it's overpriced(& looks like useless Z470 mobo will be).

 

[alceryes]

Performance won't be much better, unless you're really using all 10 cores (20 threads) to accomplish the workload. I doubt gaming will benefit much, if at all.

My 9900k will be fine for at least another 2 years - probably longer.

 

[TerryLaze]

Between tomorrow and some time in the future.

I heard May for a release... Comet Lake is an abortion, I am waiting on Rocket Lake-S and the 500 series chipset - towards the end of the year

If they release anything end of the year it will be laptop CPUs with desktop releasing around this time next year,this is basically what they do every time,if you can wait it's still a good option...if intel releases them so soon.

1)Nope.
2)Not really, considering the cost of both platforms. A decent X299 board is going to run you around 300USD or higher, that cpu will need a liquid cooler, plus the cost of quad channel memory.
A decent 9900K mobo can be had around 200USD or higher, cpu also needs a liquid cooler... I suspect the overall cost of the 10th gen to sit between these 2.

3)This is a question only you can really answer, because each individual concept of worth varies.
The nitty-gritty of what the 10900K will be: more cores, more speed, more heat.
IMO, that's not worth it. The heat output on the 8th gen cpus was already getting dumb. Then it got absurd with 9th gen.

This is only relevant for people that will use the 9900k for workstation loads.Der8auer and many others have tested power draw in gaming at 5Ghz and it runs around 70-80w so there is no heat to speak of and no need for any special cooling.

 

[Phaaze88]

If they release anything end of the year it will be laptop CPUs with desktop releasing around this time next year,this is basically what they do every time,if you can wait it's still a good option...if intel releases them so soon.

This is only relevant for people that will use the 9900k for workstation loads.Der8auer and many others have tested power draw in gaming at 5Ghz and it runs around 70-80w so there is no heat to speak of and no need for any special cooling.

Because today's games - save for Ashes of the Singularity - don't actually push this cpu, it's fine to run a 9900K with a Hyper 212, NH-U12S, 120mm/240mm rad, or similar coolers... Ok.
If the user wants to give overclocking to 5.0ghz a try - one can't test OC stability in the games themselves, as they aren't reliable enough.
Then they have to resort to something like Cinebench R20 - Intel XTU's stress test is too light on the load... heck, it's benchmark is actually harder on the cpu, but you can't loop it like you can with Cinebench.

So, Cinebench R20 on one of those coolers will be just fine. No need for special cooling then.
Cool.

 

[TerryLaze]

Because today's games - save for Ashes of the Singularity - don't actually push this cpu,

And they won't in the future either because all the games only go for top graphics.
Even Ashes of the Singularity in the game itself doesn't push any CPU,its benchmark is a heavy CPU benchmark but it has nothing to do with playing the game.

 

[Phaaze88]

And they won't in the future either because all the games only go for top graphics.
Even Ashes of the Singularity in the game itself doesn't push any CPU,its benchmark is a heavy CPU benchmark but it has nothing to do with playing the game.

I see.
What of overclocking then?

 

[TerryLaze]

I see.
What of overclocking then?

What do you mean, what of it?
In most benchmarks there is minimal difference between stock and OC on the higher intel chips because the GPU cuts off performance much sooner so we need to see what will happen with the next gen of GPUs.

 

[Phaaze88]

What do you mean, what of it?

How does one test and validate stability of a 5.0ghz OC using a 'non-special' cooler, as you put it?
I'm sure you're aware that Multi/All Core Enhancement likes to use too much voltage.

 

[mdd1963]

Hey anyone have rough idea on when 10th gen Intel desktop processors(10900K, 10700K etc) will get released?
Do you think 10900K would be noticeably cheaper than 10900X?
Do you think it's worth buying 10700K/10900K despite it being 14++++ doesn't really offer any(or much) performance increase over 9900K in games etc?

As I've not seen any actual benchmarks, I can only guess that it will probably not offer much over the Z390/9900K combo...; it is hard to see games really benefiting with 10c/20t over the current 9900K, but, I'd be delighted to be wrong...(maybe they cranked RAM speeds to a standard 3200 MHz this time? That alone mIght be worth a notch up over a 'stock/default 9900K' but, at equal RAM clocks and all core 5 GHz...it will be interesting comparisons! (announcement in a week, but, I'd be surprised if they are even for sale in late May)

 

[mdd1963]

I wont upgrade to the 10th gen because my 9900K still fast cpu for me and run my games smoothly and well only upgrade if they make one thats really good enough but we find out soon anyway!

Are you sure that it is still fast enough?

 

[TerryLaze]

How does one test and validate stability of a 5.0ghz OC using a 'non-special' cooler, as you put it?
I'm sure you're aware that Multi/All Core Enhancement likes to use too much voltage.

You don't need to validate if all you do is gaming that's the whole point,even with Multi/All Core Enhancement using too much voltage the worst thing that could happen would be for the CPU to drop below 5Ghz which again, for the time being at least, for gaming doesn't seem to have a big enough difference to even care about.

 

[EPIC123]

The i5-10600k early benchmarks look promising(5-10% single-core lead over r5 3600/3600x, 1-2% multi-core lead)