Question rtx 3060 worth it for $800 builds?

[jordanbuilds1]

planning on a $800 1080p build soon and was wondering if the 3060 would be good paired with something like a 5600g?

 

[SPECOPS70]

IMO yes. BUT. For the price I would go with a 6700xt or a 7600xt.

 

[logainofhades]

I wouldn't do a 5600g either. Gen 3 PCI-E and slower than a regular 5600, due to having half the cache.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $803.84
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[jordanbuilds1]

I wouldn't do a 5600g either. Gen 3 PCI-E and slower than a regular 5600, due to having half the cache.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 UD AC ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial T500 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 309 Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Montech AIR 903 BASE ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $803.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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dont really matter that much because 1.i like the inclusion of the integrated gpu and 2. im prob gonna use a sata ssd.
edit, i am gonna use the nvme drive as a boot drive but boot up times dont matter to me.

 

[logainofhades]

Getting a good SATA drive isn't really any different in price, than a good NVME.

 

[jordanbuilds1]

Getting a good SATA drive isn't really any different in price, than a good NVME.

true, but if i get a 120gb nvme and then 1tb ssd, that should help with boot times on the nvme right?

 

[John Chesterfield]

dont really matter that much because 1.i like the inclusion of the integrated gpu and 2. im prob gonna use a sata ssd.
edit, i am gonna use the nvme drive as a boot drive but boot up times dont matter to me.

Good to always have an IGPU for troubleshooting, but CPU cache can matter for some applications.

 

[geofelt]

What is the rest of your proposed build?

What kinds of games do you play?
Fast action games will want a fast graphics card.
OTOH, cpu sensitive games like sims, mmo and strategy games want a fast cpu.
Games of all types like fast single thread performance for the master thread.

Do not bother to try to separate windows on a 120gb drive. many things default to the C drive and if you fill it up, performance suffers terribly. Put it all on a single 1tb or 2tb m.2 device. Usually the cost per gb is no different from sata.

Do not chase glowing synthetic benchmarks, most work is random.


And, compare your Intel options.
At any price point, the price/performance differences are minimal.
If you come from an AMD background, you are familiar with their systems.
If you come from an Intel background you would be more comfortable with Intel.

I might say the same for graphics. Nvidia vs. amd.
The driver ecosystems have a learning curve.

 

[jordanbuilds1]

What is the rest of your proposed build?

What kinds of games do you play?
Fast action games will want a fast graphics card.
OTOH, cpu sensitive games like sims, mmo and strategy games want a fast cpu.
Games of all types like fast single thread performance for the master thread.

Do not bother to try to separate windows on a 120gb drive. many things default to the C drive and if you fill it up, performance suffers terribly. Put it all on a single 1tb or 2tb m.2 device. Usually the cost per gb is no different from sata.

Do not chase glowing synthetic benchmarks, most work is random.


And, compare your Intel options.
At any price point, the price/performance differences are minimal.
If you come from an AMD background, you are familiar with their systems.
If you come from an Intel background you would be more comfortable with Intel.

I might say the same for graphics. Nvidia vs. amd.
The driver ecosystems have a learning curve.

i mostly play cs2, val, fortnite, rl, etc. ive used many macs, laptops and office pcs with intel.

 

[geofelt]

i mostly play cs2, val, fortnite, rl, etc. ive used many macs, laptops and office pcs with intel.

If you have no experience with ryzen, education is in order.
Ryzen is very tied to ram for performance and compatibility.
If I see any common issue with ryzen on these forums it is with ram issues.
Not all ram is compatible so one needs to be careful.

Worth is a question only YOU can determine.
I think the games you play will like fast single thread performance on your new processor.

Run the cpu-Z bench on your current pc and look at the single thread performance.
The 5600G scores 596 which is quite good.
As a comparison, the i3-12100 scores a similar 650

 

[ohio_buckeye]

As an amd guy, at this price point go Intel with an i5 12400. It would give flexibility to upgrade to 14th gen later. Also skip the 3060 and look at the 6700xt or 6750xt.

Nvme vs sata ssd nvme is a bit faster but not so much that you’ll notice a difference day to day. Get a 1tb nvme you can always add storage later on.

 

[35below0]

Over budget by $70 but with a good motherboard, better CPU and GPU.
Good for 1080p, decent for 1440p

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($164.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Alternate Video Card: MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 3X 12G OC GeForce RTX 3060 ($299.99 @ MSi)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $872.82
Alternate Total: $842.82
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[geofelt]

true, but if i get a 120gb nvme and then 1tb ssd, that should help with boot times on the nvme right?

Not exactly right.
Boot times depend initially on bios processing and the cpu is a significant part of the process.
I doubt you could tell any difference on boot times with a pcie nvme drive or a sata nvme drive.

 

[jordanbuilds1]

As an amd guy, at this price point go Intel with an i5 12400. It would give flexibility to upgrade to 14th gen later. Also skip the 3060 and look at the 6700xt or 6750xt.

Nvme vs sata ssd nvme is a bit faster but not so much that you’ll notice a difference day to day. Get a 1tb nvme you can always add storage later on.

ill check it out.

Over budget by $70 but with a good motherboard, better CPU and GPU.
Good for 1080p, decent for 1440p

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700G 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($164.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M PG RIPTIDE Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($39.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Alternate Video Card: MSI RTX 3060 Ventus 3X 12G OC GeForce RTX 3060 ($299.99 @ MSi)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $872.82
Alternate Total: $842.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-08 20:48 EDT-0400

ryzen sounds good at that price, but i might go intel maybe, also would there be another card worth looking at also?

Not exactly right.
Boot times depend initially on bios processing and the cpu is a significant part of the process.
I doubt you could tell any difference on boot times with a pcie nvme drive or a sata nvme drive.

so should i get an nvme and an ssd, or just one?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Get the larger nvme. You can always add more storage fairly easily.

As far as ryzen on socket am4, it’s decent but once you get the 5700g for example you’ll have no upgrade pathway except new platform. Technically Intels LGA 1700 is a dead socket as well but if you went Intel 12th gen you could always update the bios and upgrade to 14th gen later. Also you can use ddr4 on Intel currently as well to keep costs down with the right board.

 

[jordanbuilds1]

Get the larger nvme. You can always add more storage fairly easily.

As far as ryzen on socket am4, it’s decent but once you get the 5700g for example you’ll have no upgrade pathway except new platform. Technically Intels LGA 1700 is a dead socket as well but if you went Intel 12th gen you could always update the bios and upgrade to 14th gen later. Also you can use ddr4 on Intel currently as well to keep costs down with the right board.

upgrade paths arent a big deal for me, but its nice to know intel has a big one.

 

[geofelt]

ill check it out.

ryzen sounds good at that price, but i might go intel maybe, also would there be another card worth looking at also?

so should i get an nvme and an ssd, or just one?

Considering that there is very little price differential between sata and pcie drives, I would opt for a single,larger nvme/pcie ssd from a quality vendor like Intel or Samsung.

A single space is easier to manage.

I would not chase the glowing sequential benchmarks, you would hardly ever see the benefit.