[SOLVED] RTX 3090 GETTING 120FPS ON HIGH/LOW SETTINGS WARZONE 1080p ?

[Sam.R]

Hello guys so i am suffering from low fps in cod warzone and some other titles too, but warzone seems to be the biggest issue for me at the moment. I run at 1080p and have tried putting my settings to highest setting and lowest setting and only seem to get 10fps difference. I upgraded from a 2080 and have only gained around 10fps. Im not sure if my CPU is bottlenecking or something but no matter what i try i cannot get FPS no matter what. I have seen people pulling the same fps as me with similar rigs on 4K, i dont know what im doing wrong at this point.

My Rig;
RTX 3090
Ryzen 9 3950x
32gb 3600mhz corsair vengence
ROG Strix X570-F
M.3 NVME SSD 1TB
Thermal Take 360mm Water Cooler
Corsair Fully Modular Gold certified 650W PSU

Thanks

 

[Sam.R]

Columns LW and LX - you're hitting a GPU power limit.

Columns LW and LX - you're hitting a GPU power limit.

so what does that mean exactly?

 

[dotas1]

I have tried fresh install of windows before already, didnt do anything. Dont have another rig i can try it on, but i dont think its the card. On doing a userbenchmark everything was fine?

I don't trust userbenchmark when it comes to performance, it's only good to see if something stands out as an issue.

Have you tried any other game? Any benchmark like 3dmark or heaven? It does seem to underperform if you say only 120fps max, that's why I said to RMA the card.

 

[alceryes]

so what does that mean exactly?

It means that the card either thinks that any more power would cause instability or the card actually knows that more power would cause instability.

 

[Sam.R]

It means that the card either thinks that any more power would cause instability or the card actually knows that more power would cause instability.

is there something i can do to troubleshoot this? As i know i should be getting more frames than what i am by atleast 60...

 

[dotas1]

Hi, sorry got it wrong its an 850W - this one to be exact (https://www.alza.co.uk/corsair-rm85...MV1xnDrbxf5tTtELPUUBBrBM22RvYNqxoCslMQAvD_BwE)

But surely 120fps is still low? i see people getting 250fps at 1080p with 3090

Are you certain it's the exact one? Not an orange labeled RM850? Please make sure by opening your case and confirm its the grey one.

 

[Sam.R]

Are you certain it's the exact one? Not an orange labeled RM850? Please make sure by opening your case and confirm its the grey one.

Sorry just checked its the gold labelled one, but i dont see how that would be the problem

 

[RodroX]

You probably did this, but just in case: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/call-of-duty-warzone-144-fps-competitive-gaming-guide/

I would write down your current settings, just in case you need to go back to them!!!

 

[sizzling]

May be true but hasn't the thermal threshold of stability also been lowered for these cards? Can't research now but will examine.

The card is hitting a power limit threshold.

Thermal threshold is still about normal. There are reviews of 3080’s in ITX builds and in this situation the gpu hits high 80’s but still boosts and run without issues. My 3080 maxes out at 70c and runs cooler than my old 2080 Super which ran around 80c. Compared to 2000 series and AMD the 3000 series has excellent thermals

At stock settings it should not be power limited, 3080 Gaming OC is not power limited. The additional headroom is minimal but most 3080’s top out at about 2100mhz anyway so it doesn’t matter. There is minimal overclocking headroom.

 

[sizzling]

It means that the card either thinks that any more power would cause instability or the card actually knows that more power would cause instability.

What are you talking about. Extra power does not cause instability. Exteme overclockers use modified BIOS's or modify the card to increase the power limits but accept that they can reduce the life or even kill the card. Extra power increases heat and can reduce component life. The GPU's have a hard limit in the stock BIOS to stop high volumes of warranty claims when people overclock the cards.

 

[Coollerzz]

RTX 3090 will give 120 fps on high settings even with this CPU

 

[Sam.R]

RTX 3090 will give 120 fps on high settings even with this CPU

Why will it? Makes no sense, got the same fps with 2080. My CPU utilisation is at 40 percent when i play, people are playing this game at 4k with the same frames as me

 

[Phaaze88]

3090FE bios: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/225524/nvidia-rtx3090-24576-200901
Max power limit of 400w. There are aftermarket cards with lower and higher limits than that.

My CPU utilisation is at 40 percent when i play

That's not an accurate way to measure cpu usage, because of the multiple cores/threads. You have to look at each one, because all it takes is one to hold back performance.

people are playing this game at 4k with the same frames as me

The performance of the RTX 30 cards scales better at higher resolutions.


Wait a minute... 3950X...
I just remembered something. This might be one of those situations where you have too many cpu threads that it 'confuses the game', thus are forced to disable threads to make it work correctly.
Try the following:
1)From the Start menu, click on Run, type in msconfig and click on OK.
2)Select Boot tab and click on Advanced options.
3)Check the Number of processors box and select the number of threads(12, please) you want to use and click on OK.
4)Restart Windows for the changes to take effect.
5)Test it out.

 

[MorganPike]

What are you using to determine your fps?

I'm not familiar with Warzone. Are you experiencing similar results in other games?

What are you using to stream? Does that software have an fps limiter?

 

[Sam.R]

3090FE bios: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/225524/nvidia-rtx3090-24576-200901
Max power limit of 400w. There are aftermarket cards with lower and higher limits than that.


That's not an accurate way to measure cpu usage, because of the multiple cores/threads. You have to look at each one, because all it takes is one to hold back performance.


The performance of the RTX 30 cards scales better at higher resolutions.


Wait a minute... 3950X...
I just remembered something. This might be one of those situations where you have too many cpu threads that it 'confuses the game', thus are forced to disable threads to make it work correctly.
Try the following:
1)From the Start menu, click on Run, type in msconfig and click on OK.
2)Select Boot tab and click on Advanced options.
3)Check the Number of processors box and select the number of threads(12, please) you want to use and click on OK.
4)Restart Windows for the changes to take effect.
5)Test it out.

just tried this, lost fps and made my game choppy

 

[Sam.R]

What are you using to determine your fps?

I'm not familiar with Warzone. Are you experiencing similar results in other games?

What are you using to stream? Does that software have an fps limiter?

the ingame fps counter, i have tried the stream overlay one also but it read the same. Also, im using OBS to stream onto twitch and no it does not limit my fps

 

[Phaaze88]

@Sam.R
No good, huh? Dang, I've actually seen that work for some folks...
Revert the changes by unchecking the Number of processors box if you haven't already.

 

[alceryes]

What are you talking about.

I am talking about the fact that the card is reporting hitting the Performance Limit - Reliability Voltage and Performance Limit - Max Operating Voltage levels, as shown in the HWiNFO64 log.

What are you talking about. Extra power does not cause instability.

Completely incorrect. Higher power can cause instability, even if temps are kept in check. Of course, this depends on the component(s) in question. We are talking about GPUs here. GPUs that have SMDs that have certain power limits.

The GPU's have a hard limit in the stock BIOS to stop high volumes of warranty claims when people overclock the cards.

For the most part, yes. However, lab tests tend to differ from real-world usage and not every GPU (of the exact same mfg/model) is created equal. There are normal variations in SMD performance and solder points that can change what the card is capable of doing - despite what is programmed in BIOS.

 

[sizzling]

Completely incorrect. Higher power can cause instability, even if temps are kept in check. Of course, this depends on the component(s) in question. We are talking about GPUs here. GPUs that have SMDs that have certain power limits.

Thats not the extra power causing the instability. Thats inadequate power delivery design.

 

[alceryes]

Thats not the extra power causing the instability. Thats inadequate power delivery design.

There may be a mix up of terminology here. When I say 'GPU' I am referring to the whole graphics card as one unit. Not just the actual core chip on the card.

Do you mean power delivery design of the components on the GPU or the PSU's power delivery to the GPU?
If the former, I agree, and that means that the GPU (and all it's chokes, mosfets, capacitors, etc.) is hitting some kind of power limit. If you are referring to the PSU I would disagree, at least right now, since we have nothing telling us that the PSU is actually at fault.

 

[sizzling]

There may be a mix up of terminology here. When I say 'GPU' I am referring to the whole graphics card as one unit. Not just the actual core chip on the card.

Do you mean power delivery design of the components on the GPU or the PSU's power delivery to the GPU?
If the former, I agree, and that means that the GPU (and all it's chokes, mosfets, capacitors, etc.) is hitting some kind of power limit. If you are referring to the PSU I would disagree, at least right now, since we have nothing telling us that the PSU is actually at fault.

I think you are right, mix up in terminology as I mean the power delivery on the gpu 👍

 

[spentshells]

i stream as well as game on my rig, thought 1440 would be a lot to handle all on one rig. But i thought id still get much better fps than 120?

You aren't alone, this seems to be an issue for 3080 owners and 3090 owners
120fps is very common for 3xxx amd and 30x0 users higher ram speeds are getting up to 145 fps but what you are seeing appears to be very common.

Try to render the game at 1440P using the nvidia software, see if anything changes.

The issue you are having is all over this forum and all over reddit. youtube 3700x 3080 warzone ultra, 120 fps is where the 3080 and amd3xxx series setups are landing.

You aren't the exception you are part of the norm. Like I said try rendering the game @ 1440p see what happens, most likely nothing I bet everything stays exactly the same.

 

[Sam.R]

So i guess my fps can not be improved and this is the best i will get then?

 

[1heSpartan]

So much fuffle on here.

First ensure your bios is running the PCI x 16 slot at Gen.3 or above (confirm using GPU-Z), other than that @Sam.R only thing you can currently do is wait till NVIDIA optimise their drivers.

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