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I definitely had some issues on both my machines. On my main desktop the install bunked to 572.83, resulting in a black screen and unresponsive device. Hard reset to find the MS display driver at 720p and no NVIDIA hardware found. I ran DDU on both rigs, cleaned up some issues, others remain. It's probably best to play the wait and see game with their newer releases, like back in the Vista days.. Also time for AMD and Intel to release....literally anything decent in quantity.
 
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I had a few issues with black screens and Folding crashing on the new drivers.
DDU all drivers and reinstalled AMD motherboard/chipset drivers along with the latest Nvidia drivers.
Looking in reliability history it appears to have started with MS XBOX game overlay update and again with your phone update.

All of my errors appear the same day or the next day after Microsoft updates.
 
Notton said:
I have a 4070Ti with a G-sync enabled monitor and this is the first I've heard of this problem.
And I even have the dreaded Win11 24H2 with 572.xx driver combination.
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It doesn't seem to affect everyone, but there's some rather large threads on Reddit and the NVIDIA forums about it. Most of my issues are fixed, what remains can be lived with, or configured around. I'm just generally annoyed at the inconsistency of updates the last bit. Some issues fixed, others popping back up time after time.
 
Actually I am having a 3070Ti and the instability happens to me also... used to be rock solid and then after the 50 series release drivers... CTD comes back, now go DDU and reinstall old driver fixed the issue...

Lol to the "nvidia drivers are better" BS..
 
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Tbonius said:
I guess they need to upgrade.
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That is, of course, the most likely Nvidia response if pressed. It's also an inadequate response. If the drivers are still being updated (which they are for 30 series) they should not be breaking things while fixing others that may not be relevant to the older hardware. Lack of adequate testing...

That said, fingers crossed, I have a 3060 that so far is working fine. I update (usually Studio rather than current line) drivers 2-3 times a year unless a story here at Tom's flags a significant security fix in between. And I don't use a G-sync monitor. So maybe I'm somewhat insulated from the mess?
 
Now imagine having to keep downgrading and not being able to use any new driver for over a year and you'll have my experience with AMD and my Fury Nano.

But still, that should be a source of embarrassment for nVidia, especially given the price premium the RTX 3000 onwards have carried due to "shortages'.
 
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To add more.
My other folding rig has not suffered any of these problems.
main rig
5600x
Asus primeX570p
16 gig 3600
4070
second dedicated folding rig
3600
Asus prime X570p
16 gig 3600
3060 ti
Mine always happen on Tuesday or Wednesday after windows updates ??????
Wednesdays appear to be after restarting that morning for updates installed during the night.

So from my data it could be windows update related.
Crashing programs were
dwm.exe
and Folding@home immediately after.
 
But, wait, I'm always being told "oMg AmD dRiVeRs ArE tErRiBlE!!1!"

Funny, AMD drivers work well, and I often see reports that they get better with age, with the "like a fine wine" analogy being used.

That said, are we sure the complaint of Nvidia focusing only on the 50-series is accurate? Because it seems to be that they're barely focusing on the 50-series, since it looks like they just want to be an AI company at this point.

Now, with the new perk of Nvidia's drivers aging like warm milk.
 
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King_V said:
But, wait, I'm always being told "oMg AmD dRiVeRs ArE tErRiBlE!!1!"

Funny, AMD drivers work well, and I often see reports that they get better with age, with the "like a fine wine" analogy being used.

That said, are we sure the complaint of Nvidia focusing only on the 50-series is accurate? Because it seems to be that they're barely focusing on the 50-series, since it looks like they just want to be an AI company at this point.

Now, with the new perk of Nvidia's drivers aging like warm milk.
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Yeah, it's nothing sort of embarassing for Nvidia that this black screen problem has been lingering for weeks now.

I have yet to encounter such issues myself, but i definitely understand the frustration of other users.
 
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I guess I've been "lucky" that the nVidia app won't allow me to update the drivers. It keeps saying unable to connect to nvidia when I try to download an updated driver. It only does that for the game ready driver. As a test, I opted for Studio drivers and it downloaded just fine but I didn't actually apply it. As, at some point in the future, I'll probably want to update the drivers; has anyone run into this before and know what the work around is?
 
Thank you for talking about this. I have a 4080 and got this issue since the first 572.xx driver. Can't enable frame gen in several games otherwise my entire PC reboots as soon as the game launches (like Stalker 2 and Cyberpunk 2077). With 566.36 everything works fine, so I stick with it until I get the confirmation that the problem is fixed. I'm not a big fan of frame gen but I will certainly not tolerate to use a driver that makes my entire PC crashing if I enable it.

The problem seems to be triggered by a combination of frame gen + G-Sync + HDR, so if you don't play with these enabled, please no need to say "I don't have this problem so it's not real".

I follow the threads on the Nvidia driver forum and there are so many people with the exact same issue with the same games, it's infuriating that Nvidia just keeps ignoring the problem. It's like "we got your money so we don't care about you anymore, just get a 5000 card".
 
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bitbucket said:
I guess I've been "lucky" that the nVidia app won't allow me to update the drivers. It keeps saying unable to connect to nvidia when I try to download an updated driver. It only does that for the game ready driver. As a test, I opted for Studio drivers and it downloaded just fine but I didn't actually apply it. As, at some point in the future, I'll probably want to update the drivers; has anyone run into this before and know what the work around is?
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Did you try to install it without Nvidia App? Just download the driver from the Nvidia website and install it manually.
 
Alvar Miles Udell said:
Now imagine having to keep downgrading and not being able to use any new driver for over a year and you'll have my experience with AMD and my Fury Nano.

But still, that should be a source of embarrassment for nVidia, especially given the price premium the RTX 3000 onwards have carried due to "shortages'.
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How is something as old as a Fury Nano relevant to the current conversation?
 
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King_V said:
But, wait, I'm always being told "oMg AmD dRiVeRs ArE tErRiBlE!!1!"

Funny, AMD drivers work well, and I often see reports that they get better with age, with the "like a fine wine" analogy being used.

That said, are we sure the complaint of Nvidia focusing only on the 50-series is accurate? Because it seems to be that they're barely focusing on the 50-series, since it looks like they just want to be an AI company at this point.

Now, with the new perk of Nvidia's drivers aging like warm milk.
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Honestly. nV 4090 is rather good, but I've never ever seen drivers that bad from AMD, the amount of h0ly 5hit, lack of support and incompleteness in nV drivers is above and ahead of everyone else.

Calling it 'concentration on 50 series' is also wrong. There is just *no* concentration at all. Just like with 40 series from the very start. Few new games get added, even few features like video upscaling got there, some nasty things gets fixed, but most of the bugs stay and all incomplete features are never becoming complete. And given funny burning connector v2 crawled in to 50 series, I think there's some real aim to decimate even fanbase.

No, no and no anymore. Sitting on 4090 until AMD releases top grade card again.
 
For some time I've been experiencing problems with two older Nvidia cards: GTX 1660 Super and GTX 750 Ti (both run in Windows 10). On the system with 1660 Super Netflix (maybe others as well, not sure at the moment) in Microsoft Edge is choppy and the one with 750 Ti doesn't display any image (no signal) on NEC EA271U for several minutes after waking up the PC from a sleep mode (so I can't use it). Reinstalling drivers didn't help.
 
Notton said:
I have a 4070Ti with a G-sync enabled monitor and this is the first I've heard of this problem.
And I even have the dreaded Win11 24H2 with 572.xx driver combination.
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I got three current systems with Nvidia cards, two with a 40s series card (desktop 4070Ti and laptop 4060, both with the latest Win 11 and drivers). Runs smooth as butter, like in your case. The other system has a 3070Ti and runs Linux, also no issue. This sounds like a case of loud minority to me, honestly. Only Nvidia issue I ever had was a used card that was likely OC'd to oblivion before I got it, from what I know of the previous owner. And I have used Nvidia cards for almost two decades now.
 
i feel sorry for all the 40 50 generations, im still waiting for upgrades, im still happy with my rtx3060 and absolutely don't want to be in a hurry

sorry to rant and laugh at how nvidia sucks the hell out of many customers

to see how many are not learning from 1 - 2 - 3 years of all the problems who where shown and told, and jump on each new gadgets from nvidia they absolutely act like apple fan boys, just paying top dollars to be on the top and say hi people i have the latest badess thingy / gimmick, amd have their share too

just waiting for others news loll awww man it never end

and the buyers are left with a bad taste, and futures ones like me ... meh i'll wait more
 
I honestly had a ton of issues with the newer drivers (since the 50 series launch started this year) even with my RTX 2070.

This is probably "me" specific, but when I would change the inputs on my display (from laptop via HDMI to PC via displayport), the nvidia drivers crash consistently. Which is weird because nothing other than newer drivers had changed in my setup (work laptop, home PC sharing a monitor) for the last 2+ years.

Now everytime I finish my work day and want to play some games, first I have to deal with driver crashes before I can even do anything.
 
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Our poor didums. All that crap they doled out to AMD about drivers and now the chikcens have come home to roost.

As the mega profits soar, and pc users become an annoyance to Leatherman, quality plummets on all fronts.
 
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