Question RTX 4090 on Intel S2600CWR

[OscarZulu]

Hello,

I currently have a Quadro M5000 card. I need to render some animations. I use 3ds Max and Arnold. Rendering is very slow. CPU rendering is out of the question because these are old processors 2xXeon E5-2620 v4 and it is even slower.

I would like to buy a GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X 24G or some other version. I have a Corsair 1000W power supply. I have PCIE v 3.0 on an Intel S26000CWR motherboard. Will I be able to connect the card and will it work on such a computer?

 

[Lutfij]

I have a Corsair 1000W power supply.
What is the exact model for the unit and how old is the unit?

If the PSU isn't compromised(due to age and wear and tear) then the card shoud drop in then again you will only lose out on performance.

Should you be spending on an RTX4090 for that build? I wouldn't. Instead I'd opt for a workstation card akin to the Quadro M5000.

 

[OscarZulu]

I have a Corsair 1000W power supply.
What is the exact model for the unit and how old is the unit?

If the PSU isn't compromised(due to age and wear and tear) then the card shoud drop in then again you will only lose out on performance.

Should you be spending on an RTX4090 for that build? I wouldn't. Instead I'd opt for a workstation card akin to the Quadro M5000.

Power supply is Corsair RM1000x 1000 Watt and I bought it in 2017. I watched some professional cards as a RTX A4000 and RTX A6000, which is very expensive, and allegedly by benchmark has weaker performance than RTX 4090. I do not know if it is to believe the benchmarks and what they take into account. I also thought to buy new motherboard and processors for three or more years and install that RTX 4090 in it. I was thinking of using that card for Arnold GPU Render. Is there any workstation card that is of the same performances and the price as RTX 4090?

 

[RodroX]

2017... 2024 ... thats around 7 years, if you used your system intensely for working, then I would not use that PSU for a RTX 4090.

 

[OscarZulu]

2017... 2024 ... thats around 7 years, if you used your system intensely for working, then I would not use that PSU for a RTX 4090.

Do you think the card or PSU will burn out? Is a new power supply needed?

Also, found this information:

CORSAIR RM1000x Series fully modular power supplies with EPS12V connectors are built with the highest quality components to deliver 80 PLUS Gold efficient power to your PC. RM1000x PSUs use only Japanese 105°C capacitors, for long life and reliability backed by a ten-year warranty.

https://www.corsair.com/newsroom/pr...elect-psu-warranties-from-7-years-to-10-years

So I guess that it will last at least three more years.

 

[RodroX]

Yes it may last 3 more year, or even more.

But it already have 7 years of use, and the RTX 4090 is a beast at power consumption (depending on the workload).

As of what will "burn", usually with the RTX 4090 is the card itself that may burn the (new) pcie power connector, but there has been a few reports of PSUs going bad to. I honestly can't said if it will happend or not cause it seems very random.

In any case Im not saying don't buy it, Im just saying be carefull, specially if your earnings depend on the work you do with the PC.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

For the cost of a 4090 alone, you could have a much better system than you currently do, and STILL get a decent GPU.

4090 for that system is nuts.

 

[OscarZulu]

Yes it may last 3 more year, or even more.

But it already have 7 years of use, and the RTX 4090 is a beast at power consumption (depending on the workload).

As of what will "burn", usually with the RTX 4090 is the card itself that may burn the (new) pcie power connector, but there has been a few reports of PSUs going bad to. I honestly can't said if it will happend or not cause it seems very random.

In any case Im not saying don't buy it, Im just saying be carefull, specially if your earnings depend on the work you do with the PC.

Compared to the price of the graphics card, the price of the PSU is small, so it might be wise to buy a new one.

For the cost of a 4090 alone, you could have a much better system than you currently do, and STILL get a decent GPU.

4090 for that system is nuts.

It's true that I can maybe get a full average PC for that price, but I need a good card that can render fast. In order for Arnold to render one frame, it needs up to an hour on current computer for some scenes. Now imagine that the animation has 300 frames. I can also invest in new processors, but then I need a new motherboard, new memory, and also a new card. That all together costs more than the RTX 4090, especially if I stack a graphics workstation.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

It's true that I can maybe get a full average PC for that price, but I need a good card that can render fast. In order for Arnold to render one frame, it needs up to an hour on current computer for some scenes. Now imagine that the animation has 300 frames. I can also invest in new processors, but then I need a new motherboard, new memory, and also a new card. That all together costs more than the RTX 4090, especially if I stack a graphics workstation.

Here's some food for thought:

RTX4090 :

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1979.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1979.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:52 EDT-0400


Full system upgrade:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Lightning WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1851.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:53 EDT-0400

I know which I'd pick. A super fast GPU with what is a dated system, will be less performant than a newer complete system in practically every way. With the full system upgrade, you would be far and away, and immeasurably so, faster than your current system.

The 4090, will be less performant on PCI e 3. Not by much though. Maybe just 5%.


Edit: BTW, there is nothing average about the full system upgrade above.

The RMX is a great PSU. Good choice.

 

[RodroX]

Here's some food for thought:

RTX4090 :

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1979.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1979.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:52 EDT-0400


Full system upgrade:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Lightning WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1851.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:53 EDT-0400

I know which I'd pick. A super fast GPU with what is a dated system, will be less performant than a newer complete system in practically every way. With the full system upgrade, you would be far and away, and immeasurably so, faster than your current system.

The 4090, will be less performant on PCI e 3. Not by much though. Maybe just 5%.


Edit: BTW, there is nothing average about the full system upgrade above.

The RMX is a great PSU. Good choice.

Thats a great choice, in fact with a little more you could add a RM850e and/or even throw in a decent 1 TB nvme SSD.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thats a great choice, in fact with a little more you could add a RM850e and/or even throw in a decent 1 TB nvme SSD.

Yeah, good spot!

 

[OscarZulu]

Here's some food for thought:

RTX4090 :

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus ROG STRIX GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1979.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1979.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:52 EDT-0400


Full system upgrade:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($33.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z790 Lightning WiFi ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($999.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1851.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-24 12:53 EDT-0400

I know which I'd pick. A super fast GPU with what is a dated system, will be less performant than a newer complete system in practically every way. With the full system upgrade, you would be far and away, and immeasurably so, faster than your current system.

The 4090, will be less performant on PCI e 3. Not by much though. Maybe just 5%.


Edit: BTW, there is nothing average about the full system upgrade above.

The RMX is a great PSU. Good choice.

I agree that you can get an ok gaming computer for that money. How would that computer work with Substance Painter, 3ds Max, After Effects, Unreal Engine, 3d Coat etc. Sometimes you should also have Painter, Unreal, Photoshop and Max open in parallel. Also, can I do fluid simulations and how fast? For how much can it render full HD 1000 frames in Arnold render with adaptive sampling and denoisers included? I would prefer a graphics workstation. This is recommended by Nvidia for professional graphics. These cards are either more expensive than the 4090, and most of them have worse performance.

NVIDIA RTX in Professional Workstations

The world’s most powerful GPUs for visualization.

www.nvidia.com

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Yes, I can see why having some performance metrics to compare would be ideal here. Anywho, the build was something to think about.

If you absolutely have to have the 4090, then Ill wish you luck with it, and hope it goes as you plan. Let us know what way you go.