News RTX 5090 is allegedly 39% faster than RTX 4090 in 3DMark benchmarks — beats RX 7900 XTX by 93%

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Leaked 3DMark benchmark results show the RTX 5090 beating the 4090 in synthetic tests by an average of 39%.

RTX 5090 is allegedly 39% faster than RTX 4090 in 3DMark benchmarks — beats RX 7900 XTX by 93% : Read more

 

[Gaidax]

Well, that's a given with 30% more shaders and 80% more memory bandwidth.

For enthusiasts, 5090 makes sense. The only card in the whole lineup that is a trap is probably 5080.

Of course, this also means that gen-to-gen changes are quite minor besides stuffing more shaders and G7 memory.

 

[Makaveli]

Card will cost $3,000 CAD

 

[bit_user]

Well, that's a given with 30% more shaders and 80% more memory bandwidth.

Almost 33% more shaders, but those would seem to be the bottleneck, though. However, given the reduction in clock speeds, it's a little hard to see where it gets the extra performance, if DLSS isn't involved.

 

[drivinfast247]

If it's LEGIT 93% percent faster than a 7900xtx in games, I'll upgrade.

 

[spongiemaster]

If it's LEGIT 93% percent faster than a 7900xtx in games, I'll upgrade.

If the 5090 is 30% faster than the 4090 on average across the board, then the 5090 will be about twice as fast as a7900XTX using ray tracing at 4k without any rendering aids. In straight rasterized scenarios, we're looking at roughly 60% faster at 4k.

 

[Nitmare64]

The benchmark that dont mean anything to anyone!

 

[ilukey77]

It better be 39% without DLSS for the price they are charging

 

[aberkae]

It better be 39% without DLSS for the price they are charging

Creat fud that price is $2499 or higher, create fud of scarcity to cause mass hysteria. Nvidia tactics 101!
Bait and switch.
What if Nvidia's goal is to make fe edition slightly better than last gen only to make the aib cards that will probably be more expensive more attractive and performant in comparison 🤔?

Paper launch fe edition and flood the market ( in context to paper launch) with aib cards that are more expensive but potentially clock higher.

 

[ilukey77]

Creat fud that price is $2499 or higher, create fud of scarcity to cause mass hysteria. Nvidia tactics 101!
Bait and switch.
What if Nvidia's goal is to make fe edition slightly better than last gen only to make the aib cards that will probably be more expensive more attractive and performant in comparison 🤔?

Paper launch fe edition and flood the market ( in context to paper launch) with aib cards that are more expensive but potentially clock higher.

At this point anything is possible with Nvidia !!

Not like their new to pulling shady BS !!

 

[dipique]

Well, that's a given with 30% more shaders and 80% more memory bandwidth.

For enthusiasts, 5090 makes sense. The only card in the whole lineup that is a trap is probably 5080.

Of course, this also means that gen-to-gen changes are quite minor besides stuffing more shaders and G7 memory.

Plus more and MUCH faster tensor cores. If you're on the AI train it's a hell of a card. If not, second hand 4090s will be the way to go.

 

[guraldunix]

Nvidia touting DLSS so much this gen should tell you something.

Raster performance and value for money will likely disappoint.

I'll wait for real reviews.

 

[JWalton314]

I have a 3090 and at a $2000 USD price point, I'm priced out. I'll be looking at the 5080 to compare as an upgrade.

 

[KyaraM]

GN and HWU both dropped RTX 5090 reviews now.

 

[artk2219]

If the 5090 is 30% faster than the 4090 on average across the board, then the 5090 will be about twice as fast as a7900XTX using ray tracing at 4k without any rendering aids. In straight rasterized scenarios, we're looking at roughly 60% faster at 4k.

That puts it right at the edge of whether or not it's worth it since 50% is the minimum gain you should look for when upgrading a GPU. What's interesting is it's an even less tempting offer if you're on a 4080 since the rasterization performance will be a similar improvement as against the 7900 XTX, but the ray tracing improvement will be smaller, also likely around 60%. Honestly if you're on either of those cards or a 4090, unless your specific non gaming workload sees a massive speed up this generation, it's probably not worth upgrading. Especially not with the supposed magic sauce (DLSS 4, FSR 4) for both being made available in one form or another for the previous generation.

 

[spongiemaster]

That puts it right at the edge of whether or not it's worth it since 50% is the minimum gain you should look for when upgrading a GPU. What's interesting is it's an even less tempting offer if you're on a 4080 since the rasterization performance will be a similar improvement as against the 7900 XTX, but the ray tracing improvement will be smaller, also likely around 60%. Honestly if you're on either of those cards or a 4090, unless your specific non gaming workload sees a massive speed up this generation, it's probably not worth upgrading. Especially not with the supposed magic sauce (DLSS 4, FSR 4) for both being made available in one form or another for the previous generation.

If you don't game at 4k or higher, you should not buy a 5090. At 4k, if you own anything but a 4090 (99% of gamers according to Steam), the 5090 is way out in front of what you own. Techpowerup has the 4090 75% ahead of the 7900XTX at 4k, and an embarrassing 150% ahead at 4k in their raytracing suite. The only card that isn't beaten by at least 70% is the 4090.

Should everyone run out and buy a 5090? Of course not. $2000 is a lot of money, but for those that can foot the bill, the performance is there despite the sour grapes parade and largely hypocritical (go read the 9800X3D comment section) parade rolling through the 5090 review thread here.

 

[ilukey77]

If you don't game at 4k or higher, you should not buy a 5090. At 4k, if you own anything but a 4090 (99% of gamers according to Steam), the 5090 is way out in front of what you own. Techpowerup has the 4090 75% ahead of the 7900XTX at 4k, and an embarrassing 150% ahead at 4k in their raytracing suite. The only card that isn't beaten by at least 70% is the 4090.

Should everyone run out and buy a 5090? Of course not. $2000 is a lot of money, but for those that can foot the bill, the performance is there despite the sour grapes parade and largely hypocritical (go read the 9800X3D comment section) parade rolling through the 5090 review thread here.

Yes ive watched the reviews and it’s a beast no doubt …

Sadly im not sure I can warrant the massive cost for the gaming I do these days ..

My plan to buy one and just sit on it for years and years still is up in the air..

I get the feeling that unless it’s a lucky buy before sold out at release then retailers are going to increase prices and scalpers are going to scalp!!

I may just wait for 20gb 5080 and / or skip this gen entirely and see what AMD brings with udna

BUT
100% a beast of a gpu run a custom loop and /or the AIO versions and yeah throw in a custom bios and yes cyberpunk 2077 will finally feel old gen🤣🤣

 

[bit_user]

That puts it right at the edge of whether or not it's worth it since 50% is the minimum gain you should look for when upgrading a GPU.

That's highly specific to the user and also very dependent on the price. For an elite pro gamer, they'll certainly upgrade for less gain. If you have tons of cash and want the nicest 4k framerates, you'll probably also upgrade sooner than that.

For me, I wouldn't consider a GPU upgrade worthwhile for anything less than 2x the performance (or 100% increase, if you want to put it that way). Not that I currently do anything very graphically intensive. If I did, it'd probably be with VR. I got a PSVR2, when they went on sale for $350, and there's an official $60 adapter box from Sony that you can use to connect it to your PC.

 

[bit_user]

I may just wait for 20gb 5080

Should be 24 GB. Whatever it ends up being, it's going to be a multiple of 3. So, 21 GB is plausible, if they disable a memory channel for some reason and compensate by increasing the bit rate (though I doubt they'd do that).

and / or skip this gen entirely and see what AMD brings with udna

UDNA is going to be quite a while (plan on ~2 years) and might be a little underwhelming, when it finally arrives. I think it'll take them some time to get their drivers in good shape for it, although that's just a pure guess on my part.

I wouldn't bet on UDNA leapfrogging Nvidia, but that's again just me looking at historical trends. The only reasons RDNA2 could contend with Ampere is that AMD was on a better node (TSMC N7) than Ampere (Samsung 8nm) and AMD had Infinity Cache. In Ada, Nvidia caught up on the cache front and slightly leapfrogged them on the manufacturing node. So, that returned us to the historical trend of Nvidia leading by about a generation.

 

[ilukey77]

Should be 24 GB. Whatever it ends up being, it's going to be a multiple of 3. So, 21 GB is plausible, if they disable a memory channel for some reason and compensate by increasing the bit rate (though I doubt they'd do that).


UDNA is going to be quite a while (plan on ~2 years) and might be a little underwhelming, when it finally arrives. I think it'll take them some time to get their drivers in good shape for it, although that's just a pure guess on my part.

I wouldn't bet on UDNA leapfrogging Nvidia, but that's again just me looking at historical trends. The only reasons RDNA2 could contend with Ampere is that AMD was on a better node (TSMC N7) than Ampere (Samsung 8nm) and AMD had Infinity Cache. In Ada, Nvidia caught up on the cache front and slightly leapfrogged them on the manufacturing node. So, that returned us to the historical trend of Nvidia leading by about a generation.

Dont know Nvidia a stingy on Vram at best ..

Mind you im not sure why 32gb on the 5090 they could have used some of that extra for the 5080 at release🤣

The 4080 to 4080 super was no extra !!

So im not holding my breath for 20 gb let alone what your saying..

Yeah im aware the UDNA will be 2 years away but my 24gb 7900xtx should serve me well enough till then ..

Also im not holding my breath for a big swing at 6090 as AMD should have done that this gen not flounder around in mid to low tier ..

Intel may be my next GPU in 2 years because i personally believe Intel will take the mid to low tier and Nvidia will be high to the best of the best

Leaving AMD is a silly ( of there own doing ) place by not offering high enough end and getting rolled by intel in the mid to low tier !!

That all said in a few days the reviews for the 5080 will come out so ill see then if the 5080 is worth it

 

[bit_user]

So im not holding my breath for 20 gb let alone what your saying..

It's just mechanics. If the Super uses 24 Gbit GDDR7 chips instead of 16 Gbit GDDR7 ones, then the amount goes from 16 GB to 24 GB. The only way they get less is if they drop the bus width from 256 bits to 224 bits. If that happens, it's more likely to be on the RTX 5070 Super, not the RTX 5080 Super.

There's a limited set of knobs they can twiddle, assuming the Super has more memory at all.

Intel may be my next GPU in 2 years because i personally believe Intel will take the mid to low tier and Nvidia will be high to the best of the best

In the past, I could've agreed more easily. However, Intel has been cutting deeply into their graphics department and the company has been significantly hobbled. I'd just be glad to see them compete in the low-to-mid range.

Leaving AMD is a silly ( of there own doing ) place by not offering high enough end and getting rolled by intel in the mid to low tier !!

The rumor I've heard is that they tried something even more ambitious than the 7900 XTX (involving both chiplets and die-stacking), but it didn't work out.

IMO, the 7900 XTX underperformed its potential. Chiplets didn't work as well as they'd hoped, which is why they went back to monolithic. Whatever they do, I don't want them to be so ambitious that they aren't successful.

That all said in a few days the reviews for the 5080 will come out so ill see then if the 5080 is worth it

If you can get one at list price, then it sounds like you'll get more perf/$ than the RTX 4080 Super. Ignoring DLSS and ray tracing, the RTX 5090 was only about the same perf/$ as the RTX 4090, which actually makes the RTX 5080 sound good by comparison.