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[citation][nom]TheMaristBoy[/nom]Makes me and my Core 2 Duo E7500 feel old and outdated -___-[/citation]
Lucky you. I still have an E6400 from August 2006. Just waiting for Ivy Bridge...
 
[citation][nom]AstroTC[/nom]Personally I hate the new naming scheme for Intel and AMD[/citation]
the new naming scheme actually makes sense to me...the only one that didn't was that of the first generation Core i3/i5/i7 procs.
 
Woah, number confusion here. All the model numbers with very little differentiation, save for a single letter at the end in some cases, does not exactly make it easy for a consumer to know what to ask for, let alone know what he is getting. Pretty short sighted of Intel marketing.

Take i7 (sock 1366) for example:
920
930
950
etc

Pretty clear that an increase in model number corresponds with an increase in performance.

3770
3770K
3770S
3770T

I can see the customers in Microcenter waiting to buy a cpu, scratching their head and trying to ask what the difference is, all the while trying not to be embarrassed about having to ask. Even worse, when you get an associate who "knows it all" and instead of just answering the question proceeds to pepper the customer with questions like "Well what are you trying to do with your computer?" I mean really... Just answer the damn question!

I know what the different model numbers mean, but most people don't. I see it time and time again when I'm in there to buy parts. I feel like I have to answer another customer's questions because it's not already clear.
 
[citation][nom]lradunovic77[/nom]Too many versions. What happened with old days Pentium II 166Mhz, Pentium II 200Mhz[/citation]

Well there never was a 166MHz or 200MHz Pentium II, they were 233, 266, 300, 333, 350, 400, and 450MHz. Regardless, after intel got a lot of flak for ramping up clock speeds at the expense of IPC with Netburst, MHz/GHz wasn't cool anymore. Intel jumped on the model numbering bandwagon to make it easier for consumers to select CPUs without having to worry about why a 3GHz Pentium 4 was slower than a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo. IMO, the model numbers just create a new form of confusion among the uninformed computer buying public.
 
[citation][nom]dark_knight33[/nom]I know what the different model numbers mean, but most people don't. I see it time and time again when I'm in there to buy parts. I feel like I have to answer another customer's questions because it's not already clear.[/citation]

If you know your stuff like I do, why are you going to a brick and mortar store to buy a CPU in the first place?

Tigerdirect, newegg and NCIX. Store are for OEM retail computers.
 
@TheMaristBoy:

I would be saying, "Wow, makes me and my Pentium D 940 on a 955 Express MB feel old and out-dated." Yeah, I'm amazed that I managed to keep my hardware platform running and usable all the way through Core (I started on a D 830), Core 2, Core i, and now some of Core i 2, along with O/S upgrades from Win XP MCE 2K5 x86 to Win 7 Ultimate x64. With IB and Llano out, it will definitely be high time for an upgrade.
 
I'm building a new PC next month, and I've looked hard at going with Intel this time. I'm having second thoughts, though. I built this one 5 years ago, AM2 with a single core Athlon 3500 when I built it. With a bios upgrade, I can still use every new processor in AMD's lineup, other than the FX. How many sockets has Intel gone through in that time? Upgrading has a very short future with Intel. I've saved a bunch of money not having to do the MB with the processor upgrades, and have done proc/video card upgrades for the same kind of money as a proc/mobo upgrade from Intel. The problem is right now an FX proc and mobo is in the same ballpark as an i5 and mobo, and would give me better performance in the SHORT term. But I have no doubt in a couple years the 1155 line wont offer any better choices than I have now. Tough call...
 
[citation][nom]dickcheney[/nom]If you know your stuff like I do, why are you going to a brick and mortar store to buy a CPU in the first place? Tigerdirect, newegg and NCIX. Store are for OEM retail computers.[/citation]

Because at Microcenter--the one I live near, anyway--the processors can go for $30-40 cheaper than on Newegg or TigerDirect. And I don't have to wait for it to ship. Power supplies and video cards, meanwhile, are overpriced as all hell, so that's probably where they make up the difference.

At any rate, I'm surprised they still make 775 processors at all. Isn't that, like, 3-4 generations old at this point?
 
@JohnA:

How will an FX beat an i5? If you O/C, the 2500K continues to be a nearly unbeatable value. If you can get an 1155 MoBo that supports IB, then you will have a strong-performing platform that will likely out-do most of AMD's best for at least the next year, as well as a near-term upgrade path to IB that will probably out-do AMD for the next 2 years. You don't need to upgrade the CPU (and go through the hassle of doing so) if your CPU is already sufficient for your needs (and better than most AMD CPUs you could get, anyway).

I'm not an Intel fan. I have both architectures in-house. But AMD is making it difficult to recommend their CPUs for anything but the most budget-oriented of builds. But don't take my word for it. Check out the most recent 2 SBM series for a more complete picture.
 
I'm still rocking my i7 920. Runs everything I have without any bottlenecking. (BF3, Skyrim, Crysis lol)

And overclocks easily.

I'm riding this thing into the ground, along with my SUV.
 
[citation][nom]JohnA[/nom]Upgrading has a very short future with Intel.[/citation]
I'm in this camp where if you need to upgrade your CPU, you should upgrade everything else. Mostly because when you do upgrade your CPU, you have a part that's just sitting there. A lot of people don't know how to plug one in (or are afraid to) and most that do won't buy it because it's an old part.

I mean sure, you could buy a cheapo system for that CPU to be housed in, but you've already spent as much or more than what you saved. And you could keep the CPU in the event of the unforeseen, but in my experience, that never has happened.

So yeah, long story short, I don't get the point of upgrading a CPU.
 
I didnt know those cpu exist ! At some point they are useless there some cpu that is the best price /$ so why make one between a good one and a bad one if that price is only 20$ difference or so. Its like hard drive pricing before the flood, 59$ for 1TB and 69$ for 2TB and 129$ for 3TB. Why buy a 1TB when for 10$ you get twice.
 
[citation][nom]srgess[/nom]I didnt know those cpu exist ! At some point they are useless there some cpu that is the best price /$ so why make one between a good one and a bad one if that price is only 20$ difference or so. Its like hard drive pricing before the flood, 59$ for 1TB and 69$ for 2TB and 129$ for 3TB. Why buy a 1TB when for 10$ you get twice.[/citation]
The biggest problem with that, being, not all systems would be able to recognize the full capacity of the drives. Also, 2 raided 1tb HDD's would be 20 cheaper, and might be all that person needs. Just to give a retort to the question, not to start something else completely different. Seen enough flaming in regards HDDs lately, especially with all the new SDDs coming out.

In regards to the Intel naming scheme, all the sub-names (K, S, T and so on) all have different price points. The type of people I've seen that don't know enough about CPUs to understand that, are the same that usually say "well, why is this chip more than this one. They're both quad cores, right?" That being said, people like that who walk into places like microcenter will have no issues as long as the guy there knows wtf he's talking about. The people that don't like asking are the same one's who like to say they know everything and put people down, but, refuse to learn it themselves, and, I say let them get screwed on a deal. For the odd GOOD person that does, it's far out-weighed by the many bad ones that should. I can remember when I started system building. I asked. That's like defending people that wanna put a car together but have no idea what they're doing. You can't say Ford or Chrysler should chance naming of products to accommodate the few that wanna try to show off and know nothing. Long story short, you don't know what you're buying, do the research. If you don't, you're just asking to get taken. It's all in the same line as TVs, Cars, jewelry, etc. Do the homework.

Cheers.
 
[citation][nom]xenol[/nom]I'm in this camp where if you need to upgrade your CPU, you should upgrade everything else. Mostly because when you do upgrade your CPU, you have a part that's just sitting there. A lot of people don't know how to plug one in (or are afraid to) and most that do won't buy it because it's an old part.I mean sure, you could buy a cheapo system for that CPU to be housed in, but you've already spent as much or more than what you saved. And you could keep the CPU in the event of the unforeseen, but in my experience, that never has happened.So yeah, long story short, I don't get the point of upgrading a CPU.[/citation]

It depends on the Mobo...

My previous computer was build on the mighty 680i chipset. I originally bought a e6400 and replaced it a year and a half later with a Q6600. I swapped the GPU 3 times on that rig and it took me all the way to my current 2500k/P67 system.
 
[citation][nom]JohnA[/nom]I'm building a new PC next month, and I've looked hard at going with Intel this time. I'm having second thoughts, though. I built this one 5 years ago, AM2 with a single core Athlon 3500 when I built it. With a bios upgrade, I can still use every new processor in AMD's lineup, other than the FX. How many sockets has Intel gone through in that time? Upgrading has a very short future with Intel. I've saved a bunch of money not having to do the MB with the processor upgrades, and have done proc/video card upgrades for the same kind of money as a proc/mobo upgrade from Intel. The problem is right now an FX proc and mobo is in the same ballpark as an i5 and mobo, and would give me better performance in the SHORT term. But I have no doubt in a couple years the 1155 line wont offer any better choices than I have now. Tough call...[/citation]

Never heard of socket 775? I bought an E6320 5 years ago, now overclocked to 3ghz with ease (gigabyte P35 mobo does it almost by itself) and it's still not the bottleneck in my computer, it gets bottled by Ati HD370... i updated everything from graphics to ram and ssd, but never felt cpu should be first on the list to update, even when E8400 and Q8400 C2Ds prices were ridiculously low...
 
Guess this is pretty much the end of the line for the 1366 socket then as they won't even be produced anymore. I've owned a 920 and 950 and they still dominate anything thrown at them.
 
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