Rumor Roundup: Everything We've Heard on Desktop Haswell So Far, June 3, Box Art Included

[ojas]

Fakest looking box art ever.

True. No "Intel Inside" either. Deal breaker lol. 😀

 

[RazberyBandit]

@DarkSable I personally think that separating the BSCLK from the rest of the system is a good thing. When I tune the BSCLK I don't want my RAM to be screwed with. If I wanted my RAM to run at higher frequencies I'd like to OC it separately, and vice versa.

That's all fine and dandy, but this doesn't matter at all. It's completely separated from anything but the core, so it's not actually gaining you anything.... which means there will be zero difference between overclocking with the multiplier and overclocking with the core clock.

44 x 100 = 4.4GHz but 44 x 110 = 4.84GHz. Yeah... no difference at all, right? LOL

 

[Afrospinach]

soldier2013: at least they did not shoehorn the good igp into the k series for a double whammy of uselessness. In any case imo the hd4000 is better than people give it credit and the HD5200 is starting to look like a decent performer. At this rate the low end discrete gpu will be gone next generation.

 

[DarkSable]

44 x 100 = 4.4GHz but 44 x 110 = 4.84GHz. Yeah... no difference at all, right? LOL

Before trying to laugh at someone else for being stupid, make sure you know what you're talking about:

The maximum multiplier value tied to a 100 MHz base clock will be 80x; the maximum would be lower for the other base clocks. For example, the maximum multiplier for a 125 MHz base clock would be 64x; the maximum for a 166 MHz base clock would be 48x. Either way, in all three cases the maximum CPU frequency would be no higher than 8.0 GHz.

That means that if you're trying to overclock to, say, 4.8 GHz, you could have a core clock of 100 and a multiplier of 48, or you could have a core clock of 40 and a multiplier of 120. no matter which way you overclock, it doesn't matter. The result will be the same.

 

[ericjohn004]

Wow so Haswell won't overclock any better than Ivy. Maybe next year.

 

[laststop311]

Honestly the slow cpu upgrades are working out good for me. My i7-980x still has many years of life left. I'll probably get 8 years of life out of this thing when all is said and done. Thats not too shabby.

 

[ericjohn004]

Personally I'm rather impressed with Haswell. And I have a 3570k. Sure, I might not need an upgrade. From what I gather, we're looking at roughly 8-10% of a performance improvement. Meaning that a 3570k at 4.3Ghz would perform similarly to a 4670k at 4.0Ghz. Not to mention they say these are suppose to overclock better.
I'm not too excited about the BCLK being unlocked. As all this does is allow you to go in between Ghz. Like if you wanted to be at 4.55Ghz instead of 4.5Ghz. So I guess that's kind of cool if you want to squeeze every drop out of your PC. The MAX overclock on air or water for Ivy is about 4.8-5.0Ghz. If Haswell can do 5.2-5.4, along with 8-10% IPC gains, maybe it is a good upgrade from Sandy Bridge owners being that you could potentially gain .7Ghz or 25-30% in performance. That is definitely worth noting.
I'm definitely not going to be upgrading this year, but next year I will be. So hopefully we can get another 10% next year as well as better thermals.

 

[Kaiwanichi]

As good as it sounds, I still don't feel like I need to upgrade my Bloomfield.