Question RX 6600 doesn't go further than 50-60% on games

[Ftanase]

I have a Ryzen 5 1600 and a RX 6600, 16 gb 2400 mhz (prices were crazy back when i bought the ram). My gpu doesn't go further than 50-60% utilization. Is the cpu clearly holding the gpu back?

 

[rgd1101]

what the cpu usage?

 

[punkncat]

I would venture to say yes.

The first gen Ryzen CPU were pretty much comparable to 4th gen Intel in a lot of ways, perhaps 5th gen. Even just the gen 1+ made a pretty impactful difference. It is probably worth considering whether the motherboard you have can be BIOS updated to accommodate either 3xxx or 5xxx Ryzen. Even a 3600 would make a significant difference IMO. Alongside that, I would check to see whether the motherboard you have supports higher RAM speeds. I know that 1xxx liked 2133 and later 2400, but that would hold you back on any upgraded Ryzen CPU. They take a much bigger hit for RAM speed than Intel CPU do.

 

[Ftanase]

what the cpu usage?

25%
kinda like that 30% max

 

[Ftanase]

I would venture to say yes.

The first gen Ryzen CPU were pretty much comparable to 4th gen Intel in a lot of ways, perhaps 5th gen. Even just the gen 1+ made a pretty impactful difference. It is probably worth considering whether the motherboard you have can be BIOS updated to accommodate either 3xxx or 5xxx Ryzen. Even a 3600 would make a significant difference IMO. Alongside that, I would check to see whether the motherboard you have supports higher RAM speeds. I know that 1xxx liked 2133 and later 2400, but that would hold you back on any upgraded Ryzen CPU. They take a much bigger hit for RAM speed than Intel CPU do.

So the mb is an A320M-DGS. Yes it supports higher speeds, right now i have dual channel memory. Tho in cpuz it says i have 1200mhz rather than 2400 but i think thats what dual channel does and also this december im planning to upgrade my cpu to a ryzen 5 5500 with the bios updated of course

 

[punkncat]

It would almost seem as if something else is at play here. What resolution are you gaming at?

Can you run a Userbenchmark and post the link here? Turn off Afterburner/RIVA or any other frame counters you have before running. Leave anything else that you would not turn off, on.

 

[Eximo]

Double Data Rate is what causes the frequency discrepancy. It transmit data on the leading and falling edge of the clock cycle.

Dual channel theoretically can double the bandwidth by writing the same data to both channels/banks with a single command.

Ryzen 5500 will do a lot to increase your Maximum FPS. The GPU performance determines how high a resolution and settings you can run for the most part.

 

[Ftanase]

It would almost seem as if something else is at play here. What resolution are you gaming at?

Can you run a Userbenchmark and post the link here? Turn off Afterburner/RIVA or any other frame counters you have before running. Leave anything else that you would not turn off, on.

1920x 1080
UserBenchmarks: Game 71%, Desk 78%, Work 66%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 - 69.5%
GPU: AMD RX 6600 - 96.6%
SSD: Adata XPG SX7000 NVMe PCIe M.2 128GB - 80.6%
SSD: Kingston A400 480GB - 101.5%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB (2016) - 89.4%
RAM: Unknown SP008GBLFU240B02 E408247A 16GB - 86.1% (different brands, same specs)
MBD: Asrock A320M-DGS

Asrock A320M-DGS Performance Results - UserBenchmark

 

[Eximo]

Your boot drive is full. That is a big problem for general performance.

It is also very small, 500GB SSDs are like $30, you should upgrade.

 

[rgd1101]

system drive only 9GB free. bad for a ssd

 

[thestryker]

So the mb is an A320M-DGS. Yes it supports higher speeds, right now i have dual channel memory. Tho in cpuz it says i have 1200mhz rather than 2400 but i think thats what dual channel does and also this december im planning to upgrade my cpu to a ryzen 5 5500 with the bios updated of course

If you can swing it you'd be better off getting a 5600 due to performance and IO longevity. To explain the latter:

Your current video card uses 8 PCIe lanes and the 5500 is limited to 8 as well. Your current motherboard cannot do anything beyond PCIe 3.0 no matter what CPU is installed. If you were to move to a more powerful video card in the future which used 16 PCIe lanes the 5500 would still limit you to 8 and it could negatively impact the performance since you're also limited to PCIe 3.0.

 

[Ftanase]

Your boot drive is full. That is a big problem for general performance.

It is also very small, 500GB SSDs are like $30, you should upgrade.

i plan to upgrade it very soon to a 1tb ssd. it kills me to see my boot drive almost full everytime.

 

[Ftanase]

system drive only 9GB free. bad for a ssd

i plan to upgrade to a 1tb ssd

 

[Ftanase]

If you can swing it you'd be better off getting a 5600 due to performance and IO longevity. To explain the latter:

Your current video card uses 8 PCIe lanes and the 5500 is limited to 8 as well. Your current motherboard cannot do anything beyond PCIe 3.0 no matter what CPU is installed. If you were to move to a more powerful video card in the future which used 16 PCIe lanes the 5500 would still limit you to 8 and it could negatively impact the performance since you're also limited to PCIe 3.0.

So if i expand my budget a little bit for the 5600, i will get more in terms of performance in the long run even tho i have a weak mb?

 

[thestryker]

So if i expand my budget a little bit for the 5600, i will get more in terms of performance in the long run even tho i have a weak mb?

definitely

 

[Ftanase]

definitely

damn ok so i understood what u wrote
gotta start savin, tho i want to buy myself a 2x8gb 3200mhz ram for my pc

 

[Bob.B]

So the mb is an A320M-DGS. Yes it supports higher speeds, right now i have dual channel memory. Tho in cpuz it says i have 1200mhz rather than 2400 but i think thats what dual channel does and also this december im planning to upgrade my cpu to a ryzen 5 5500 with the bios updated of course

I don't think your mobo will support a 5500.

 

[thestryker]

I don't think your mobo will support a 5500.

It does they just didn't update the CPU support list. If you check the BIOS updates they added support for Renoir (ex 4500), Cezanne (ex 5500), and Vermeer (ex 5600).

 

[Ftanase]

It does they just didn't update the CPU support list. If you check the BIOS updates they added support for Renoir (ex 4500), Cezanne (ex 5500), and Vermeer (ex 5600).

But what If i buy a better MB with a 4.0 pcie and then the 5500, its going to be better rather than buying the 5600? Like the ASRock B550M-HVS SE pcie x16 4.0

 

[thestryker]

But what If i buy a better MB with a 4.0 pcie and then the 5500, its going to be better rather than buying the 5600? Like the ASRock B550M-HVS SE pcie x16 4.0

I had to look it up, and it seems I'm wrong about the number of lanes it's just the cache and PCIe revision. So you get the 16 lanes still, but don't get above PCIe 3.0 on the 5500. A better board would make no difference for a 5500 because it still will be limited to PCIe 3.0 (this comes from the CPU).

A better board could matter for the 5600 (it has PCIe 4.0), but it would be the last thing I'd look at for upgrade as the memory is really important.

 

[Ftanase]

I had to look it up, and it seems I'm wrong about the number of lanes it's just the cache and PCIe revision. So you get the 16 lanes still, but don't get above PCIe 3.0 on the 5500. A better board would make no difference for a 5500 because it still will be limited to PCIe 3.0 (this comes from the CPU).

A better board could matter for the 5600 (it has PCIe 4.0), but it would be the last thing I'd look at for upgrade as the memory is really important.

well i want to get the 5500 because i m on a tight budget, rn i ordered myself a 1tb ssd for os and other stuff.
My question is, should i get the 5500 instead of the 5600? the 5500 is 105$ and the 5600 is160$, tho id rather buy the 5500 and oc it on a better mb for a better performance, i want to know if the 5500 will solve the bottleneck issue with the rx 6600

 

[thestryker]

well i want to get the 5500 because i m on a tight budget, rn i ordered myself a 1tb ssd for os and other stuff.
My question is, should i get the 5500 instead of the 5600? the 5500 is 105$ and the 5600 is160$, tho id rather buy the 5500 and oc it on a better mb for a better performance, i want to know if the 5500 will solve the bottleneck issue with the rx 6600

You'd get more out of a 5600 on your current motherboard than a 5500 on a better one. Either CPU is going to be a big improvement over what you have now.

 

[Ftanase]

You'd get more out of a 5600 on your current motherboard than a 5500 on a better one. Either CPU is going to be a big improvement over what you have now.

Tbh, i want to get the 5500 and the 3200 mhz ddr4 ram because I have 2400mhz ram, but thats all I wanna know. If u have anything else to add, feel free to add because I enjoyed learning and getting all this info from u and from the others on this thread. Thank you.

 

[thestryker]

Tbh, i want to get the 5500 and the 3200 mhz ddr4 ram because I have 2400mhz ram, but thats all I wanna know. If u have anything else to add, feel free to add because I enjoyed learning and getting all this info from u and from the others on this thread. Thank you.

If that's what your budget allows it ought to be a big improvement. Don't bother buying a new motherboard if you end up getting the 5500 though.

 

[Ftanase]

If that's what your budget allows it ought to be a big improvement. Don't bother buying a new motherboard if you end up getting the 5500 though.

Thx bro, you helped me a lot