[SOLVED] rx 6800 xt or rtx 3070/ti

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hi,

trying to decide whats better value - i can get a 3070 for £544, a ti for 649 or a radeon 6800 xt for 600. I am aware that the 6800xt outperforms the ti in most games or equal, but I am concerned about the quality of thier recording software with amd and if fsr 2.0 is good enough to replace DLSS? I am only gaming at 1080p but have a high refresh 165hz monitor and would like to not have to upgrade for atleast 2 3 years, and increase fps in squad - a game i frequent. Only issue being is that i have 650w psu and the upgrade to a thermaltake gf750 would be about 80 quid - is that worth it? or is it worth going for the nvidia gpus which would work on my current psu?

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At 1080p, any 3070, RX 6800xt or anything above those is already FAR more than you need to do 165fps easily, so long as you have a capable enough CPU. So, pick whichever you want. FSR seems to work fine for thousands and thousands of people but if you prefer DLSS then go that way. Honestly, I don't think it makes a lot of difference aside from personal preference. I think Nvidia tends to be a bit better in terms of drivers but AMD has gotten much better than they used to be.

You will definitely need a higher capacity PSU, and it should be something decent. A cheap PSU buys you only grief.

I'd say a 6800 xt with a good PSU would be the better option over a 3070.

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At 1080p, any 3070, RX 6800xt or anything above those is already FAR more than you need to do 165fps easily, so long as you have a capable enough CPU. So, pick whichever you want. FSR seems to work fine for thousands and thousands of people but if you prefer DLSS then go that way. Honestly, I don't think it makes a lot of difference aside from personal preference. I think Nvidia tends to be a bit better in terms of drivers but AMD has gotten much better than they used to be.

You will definitely need a higher capacity PSU, and it should be something decent. A cheap PSU buys you only grief.

I'd say a 6800 xt with a good PSU would be the better option over a 3070.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus TUF-RX6800XT-O16G-GAMING Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£609.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.57 @ Technextday)
Total: £717.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Darkbreeze said:
At 1080p, any 3070, RX 6800xt or anything above those is already FAR more than you need to do 165fps easily, so long as you have a capable enough CPU. So, pick whichever you want. FSR seems to work fine for thousands and thousands of people but if you prefer DLSS then go that way. Honestly, I don't think it makes a lot of difference aside from personal preference. I think Nvidia tends to be a bit better in terms of drivers but AMD has gotten much better than they used to be.

You will definitely need a higher capacity PSU, and it should be something decent. A cheap PSU buys you only grief.

I'd say a 6800 xt with a good PSU would be the better option over a 3070.

PCPartPicker Part List

Video Card: Asus TUF-RX6800XT-O16G-GAMING Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (£609.89 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.57 @ Technextday)
Total: £717.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-11-11 19:37 GMT+0000
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thanks for the fast reply - would u say that the thermaltake gf 750 gold certified woul dbe good enought - with no overclocking on between the 6800 xt and my cpu - an i7 10700k stock clock (ik its a k chip but cant be bothered buying liquid cooling as v expensive for good ones over 240 mm)
 
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matthewmurphy57 said:
thanks for the fast reply - would u say that the thermaltake gf 750 gold certified woul dbe good enought - with no overclocking on between the 6800 xt and my cpu - an i7 10700k stock clock (ik its a k chip but cant be bothered buying liquid cooling as v expensive for good ones over 240 mm)
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750w is not enough for the 6800 xt. Yes, it meets the most basic guidelines for most models, but I can assure you that you will see spikes higher than that AND more importantly, you will likely encounter problems with protections kicking in and shutting down the power when that happens as most of these models have protections now that are significantly lower than with older generations of power supply. I've seen a bunch of these situations recently on the latest AMD and Nvidia generations. I would not even consider going with only a 750w power supply, even a very good one, on any recent generation graphics card that comes with a recommendation for a 700w power supply like the 6800 xt does.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

You go with a 750w model and any of those cards, you will almost certainly end up having problems. And there are additional considerations as well.

What is your CPU model? How many drives? How much RGB? How many fans? What CPU cooler? And additional hubs or controllers? Planning to do any overclocking of ANY kind, at all?
 
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Right, but I don't see any mention of the fact that he's looking for that either, here. But fair enough.

Out of curiosity, how long now have you had your Arctic AIO in service? I know these are a good deal, initially at least, just no idea whether they hold up over time or not as reviews never look at that aspect of these cheaper coolers.
 
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I’ve had mine a few weeks. However it was B stock. But it came basically new. It was in a box with everything wrapped in plastic from the factory and the listing showed it had 6 years warranty as a new product. The only thing that would have said to me not me was you could tell the box had probably been sitting and there weren’t instructions in the box.

Since there weren’t instructions in the box, my big challenge was finding out what revision I had, the revision number wasn’t on the box and instructions said if there’s no revision number on the box use revision 1 instructions. Tried to do that but didn’t have the right parts so I ended up looking at manuals for revision 4, then 1, then 2, and finally 3 which matched the parts in my kit. Once I got there it was an easy install. So these seem to be possibly old new stock.

For system I’m running

5900x
AsRock ab350 pro 4
32gb ddr4
6700xt
850 watt Corsair rmx psu

Various ssd drives

I’ve got pbo enabled on the cpu and under full load(all cores cinebench r23 multi core 10 minute run), it will get to 77.4 or so but stays there or lower. Games it seems to stay 50s-60s.

Pretty happy with it. It’s actually a known unit. See here.

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186247

This is the non rgb version but you can see it’s got quite a few reviews and runs about 95, over 100 for the version I linked. The one on Newegg looks like revision 3 because it appears to have the same hardware as my cooler. Also if you look at the eBay listing, Arctic who is the manufacturer appears to be the seller as well.

For 50 bucks for the non rgb I may someday buy another just to have a spare for that kind of money.
 
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10700 is socket LGA 1200.

Case will accommodate that cooler no problem.

Yes, am pretty familiar with the Arctic Freezer II models and the good reviews they have, but like I said, longevity is my concern. Biological growth and buildup inside the pump housing and radiator, which has been a common issue on many cheaper AIO coolers and causes poor cooling and premature failure, is a concern. Also, some of them have pump failures and permeation, which is loss of coolant through the lines over time, which all coolers will experience but cheaper ones using cheaper materials will have worse permeation than better quality coolers. So, these are all issues that won't occur until probably 1.5 to 2 years out, but if they have problems at that age then it isn't really a bargain over a cooler that might likely go 5-6 years for 20 or 30 dollars more.
 
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so ive been eyeing to noctua dh12u and crorig r1 - for that - would we say for a 6800 xt a evga 850w bq 80 with no overclocking applied would be decent enough? As i think im quitkeen on the 6800 as i feel it will bring me no need to upgrade for a couple years as its basically a 3080 for 600 pounds, over the 3070 which wouldnt require such psu change but maybe for 60 more quid is worth it for the card which is like 20 30 frames faster?
 
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I own the 6700xt, which I understand is within a couple of points of a 6750xt. Basically except for ray tracing the 6700xt is basically between the 3060ti and the 3070.

Take a look here for more info.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

I’m happy enough with the 6700xt. I’m on a 32 inch 1440p monitor at 165hz. Of course new cards are about to drop, so keep that in mind. But a 6750xt should be good or if you can get a deal on a 6700xt you may pull the trigger on that.

Here’s the card I’ve got. Good price to. I paid $430 for a refurbished one in the summer.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx-6700-xt-mech-2x-12g/p/N82E16814137641


Looks like one of the cheapest 6750xt cards is over 400 so it’s up to you what you want.

https://www.newegg.com/msi-rx-6750-xt-mech-2x-12g-oc/p/N82E16814137735

This may give an idea of the difference you’d see.

View: https://youtu.be/Y7gZpoXJYI4
 
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ohio_buckeye said:
I own the 6700xt, which I understand is within a couple of points of a 6750xt. Basically except for ray tracing the 6700xt is basically between the 3060ti and the 3070.

Take a look here for more info.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

I’m happy enough with the 6700xt. I’m on a 32 inch 1440p monitor at 165hz. Of course new cards are about to drop, so keep that in mind. But a 6750xt should be good or if you can get a deal on a 6700xt you may pull the trigger on that.
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with that in mind i think im going to debate the 6800 xt and the 3070, as Im upgrading from the 2070 super - and need higher fps increase than jsut a tiny bit in squad, hunt, and hell let loose - think the drivers of the 3070 or pure power of the 6800 should be the ones. Guess its a choice of spending an extra 60 on a gpu then 100 on a 850w psu hanks lot guys alot of decisions to be made thanks for your input! been sooo long since upgrading
 
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Do NOT buy that EVGA BQ model.

It is not a very good unit.

It has problems with efficiency, load regulation, inrush current, ripple suppression, the 3.3v transient response, the Power OK hold up time, it is noisy and it lacks the VERY important over temperature protection.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-bq-series-850w-psu,4842-11.html

Stick to the RM that I linked. Consider it an investment in your hardware's useful life, because any cheap PSU with ripple problems is very likely going to shorten the life of your motherboard and graphics card considerably. That RM is the least expensive high quality unit available in your market with sufficient capacity for this upgrade.

What is the model of your current power supply?
 
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