RX580 For 500W PSU

[RAY_100]

im currently had
I7 870 At 4.0ghz overclocked at vcore 1.44v
8G RAM
RX470 NITRO+ 4G OC+
With 1 SSD 1 1TB HDD
AIO Cooler with 2 120 fans And 3 cas fans
psu with 80+silver 500w

should i upgrade psu to using rx580? or i had to sacrifice overclock to use it?

 

[Tolis_GR]

List the psu model please

 

[rolli59]

You probably already have a CPU bottleneck and it will increase with going RX580. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/AORUS_RX_580_XTR/29.html
Those first gen I7 are getting long on the tooth so platform upgrade would come before GPU upgrade in my books.

 

[RAY_100]

You probably already have a CPU bottleneck and it will increase with going RX580. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/AORUS_RX_580_XTR/29.html
Those first gen I7 are getting long on the tooth so platform upgrade would come before GPU upgrade in my books.

how about 570? i pretty assume 470 Wasnt bottlenecking on 870 accoding some benchmarks

 

[rolli59]

You probably already have a CPU bottleneck and it will increase with going RX580. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/AORUS_RX_580_XTR/29.html
Those first gen I7 are getting long on the tooth so platform upgrade would come before GPU upgrade in my books.

how about 570? i pretty assume 470 Wasnt bottlenecking on 870 accoding some benchmarks

Neither the 570 or 580 is a worthwhile upgrade from your current card considering your CPU (released in 2009) possibly being a bottleneck on top. I would start saving for a newer CPU and motherboard.

 

[jankerson]

I am sure the RX 580 would be fine on an i7 870 machine as it's a mid range card. If there was any bottlenecking it would be minor and not noticeable.

The whole bottlenecking thing is massively overblown to the point of being absurd with the mid range cards and below.

With the higher end cards like the GTX 1070 and above, yeah some of the older CPUs would be a problem pushing them.


Here are some information/scores from my two machines in 3Dmark and 3Dmark 2011 on the RX 480.

Used 3DMark because it's a controlled test, same every time and it separates the GPU score from the rest.

CPU's:
I5 750 @ 2.8 GHz
XEON X3450 @ 2.8 GHz
I7 870 @ 3.2 GHz
I7 7700K @ 4.8 GHz.

Graphics card - XFX RS RX 480 8GB at stock speed.

Scores are Graphics Scores only to highlight the GPU only:

3Dmark Fire Strike:
I5 750 - 13,528
XEON X3450 - 13,707
I7 870 - 13,517
I7 7700K - 13,922

3Dmark Time Spy:
I5 750 - 4,138
XEON X3450 - 4,139
I7 870 - 4,132
I7 7700K - 4,155

3DMark 2011:
I5 750 - 19,504
XEON X3450 - 19,409
I7 870 - 19,631
I7 7700K - 19,898


So much for an I7 870 bottlenecking an RX 480, I still say with the mid range cards any i7 (8 Thread) will be fine as the CPU isn't the bottleneck.

Now results could be different with different system setups, graphics cards etc.

With cards above mid range as in the GTX 1070 and above, yes I will agree with the bottlenecking issues.

 

[rolli59]

Well apart from Future mark, here is how 870 compares to a modern I5! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/107?vs=1828

 

[jankerson]

Well apart from Future mark, here is how 870 compares to a modern I5! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/107?vs=1828

Doesn't mean much in gaming though for the most part... With the mid range cards and below... As the GPU is going to be the bottleneck before the CPU will. They will still be stuck at mid range performance in games no matter what CPU they have.

MOST games are very GPU intensive, except for a few so people will still get good performance out of their machines with the RX 480/GTX 1060 and below if they still have 1st gen I7's.

Now I wouldn't recommend anything below a 4th gen on a new build however with 5th gen or newer even better for various reasons.

 

[RAY_100]

I am sure the RX 580 would be fine on an i7 870 machine as it's a mid range card. If there was any bottlenecking it would be minor and not noticeable.

The whole bottlenecking thing is massively overblown to the point of being absurd with the mid range cards and below.

With the higher end cards like the GTX 1070 and above, yeah some of the older CPUs would be a problem pushing them.


Here are some information/scores from my two machines in 3Dmark and 3Dmark 2011 on the RX 480.

Used 3DMark because it's a controlled test, same every time and it separates the GPU score from the rest.

CPU's:
I5 750 @ 2.8 GHz
XEON X3450 @ 2.8 GHz
I7 870 @ 3.2 GHz
I7 7700K @ 4.8 GHz.

Graphics card - XFX RS RX 480 8GB at stock speed.

Scores are Graphics Scores only to highlight the GPU only:

3Dmark Fire Strike:
I5 750 - 13,528
XEON X3450 - 13,707
I7 870 - 13,517
I7 7700K - 13,922

3Dmark Time Spy:
I5 750 - 4,138
XEON X3450 - 4,139
I7 870 - 4,132
I7 7700K - 4,155

3DMark 2011:
I5 750 - 19,504
XEON X3450 - 19,409
I7 870 - 19,631
I7 7700K - 19,898


So much for an I7 870 bottlenecking an RX 480, I still say with the mid range cards any i7 (8 Thread) will be fine as the CPU isn't the bottleneck.

Now results could be different with different system setups, graphics cards etc.

With cards above mid range as in the GTX 1070 and above, yes I will agree with the bottlenecking issues.

im afraid my PSU would handle on overclocked machine like on this situation
https://cafeptthumb-phinf.pstatic.net/20160528_210/os131_14644444764427I12K_JPEG/KakaoTalk_20160328_102424345.jpg?type=w740
my psu is here it had 80+ silver and i dont have much problem with on i7 870 overclocked machine

 

[RAY_100]

List the psu model please

https://cafeptthumb-phinf.pstatic.net/20160528_210/os131_14644444764427I12K_JPEG/KakaoTalk_20160328_102424345.jpg?type=w740
this one