Ryzen 1200 or G4560 for streaming

[aquivery.rez]

So i'm gonna build my new system and i'd like to stream/record at 720p so i am leaning towards the Ryzen 1200 or G4560 they're about equal in singlecore performance so yeah
R3+MOBO= $160
G4560+MOBO= $125
so what do i get? or should i just wait for Zen+ and hope for a price drop in ryzen

 

[delaro]

@ 1080 from my experience

G4560... FPS "Looks" good 60+ but input lag and FTV is obvious

1200/1300X/2200g... FPS "Looks" the same and input lag was far less noticeable.

That is the issue with comparing 4 physical cores to a Dual core with Hyper threading. @ 720 if would be less obvious and probably just fine but I didn't try it only under 1080p and 1050p.

 

[constantine_99]

go with a R3 1200 / 2200G

real cores are always better for multitasking, get them whenever possible, + u can OC it for some extra juice

you can wait for Zen+ if u're not in a rush, it's next month and it should impact the other Ryzen product pricing

 

[mdd1963]

Is not the R5-1600 available for as little as $150 these days? (I'd try hard to avoid 4c/4t if planning any gaming)

 

[constantine_99]

Is not the R5-1600 available for as little as $150 these days? (I'd try hard to avoid 4c/4t if planning any gaming)

1st that depends on where he's living
2nd 150$ is for the CPU only
3rd that's probably a rebate/sale

of course having more cores are nice and beneficial, but if his budget is pretty tight, i'd say the R3 should be enough for now, he can always upgrade later when he had enough money

however, if he already had enough money right now then yes, i'd go with your suggestion on getting the R5 1600 instead

 

[aquivery.rez]

I see i'll just wait for Zen+ then im not in a rush and im not planning to OC because it's gonna be my first time building a system

 

[constantine_99]

I see i'll just wait for Zen+ then im not in a rush and im not planning to OC because it's gonna be my first time building a system

1st time building a PC doesn't mean you can't OC it well u'll always had to option to do so later on so just keep that in mind, consider it as an alternative in the future when u need those extra juice

 

[guanyu210379]

1. If you want to build a PC, never ever go below Intel I5 or AMD Ryzen 5 level. Or you will be upgrading big very soon. Upgrading too often costs actually more.
2. If you do not have the needed money to reach nr. 1 yet, it is better to save up and postpone the build, if possible.
3. If you can wait, waiting is always the best. Wait always for the next generation, if you can.

Some thoughts about frequent upgrade instead of getting some performance level directly upfront:
e.g. instead of going directly to R5 1600, you go get R3 1200 and then R5 1600. You are paying actually those 2 procs. You are actually wasting money on that r3 1200.
Avoid this, if you can, but sometimes, such a thing is not avoidable....but really try to avoid

These 3 principal is more or less, what I have been doing since years.
My updates intervals can also be called slow compared to most of the people in this forum, I think.
Q4 2007 from D805 to Q6600+HD3850
in Q2 2011 from HD3850 to HD6850
in late Q4 2015 from Q6600+HD6850 to E3-1231v3+gtx970
in Q2 2015 from a single gtx970 to 2x 970s
in Q3 2016 from 2xgtx970s to a single gtx1080
I am still running that E3-1231V3+GTX1080 until today Q1 2018. Still holding back from hitting the upgrade button. Ryzen 7 1800x and I7 8700k are very tempting tho'.

 

[constantine_99]

1. If you want to build a PC, never ever go below Intel I5 or AMD Ryzen 5 level. Or you will be upgrading big very soon. Upgrading too often costs actually more.
2. If you do not have the needed money to reach nr. 1 yet, it is better to save up and postpone the build, if possible.
3. If you can wait, waiting is always the best. Wait always for the next generation, if you can.

Some thoughts about frequent upgrade instead of getting some performance level directly upfront:
e.g. instead of going directly to R5 1600, you go get R3 1200 and then R5 1600. You are paying actually those 2 procs. You are actually wasting money on that r3 1200.
Avoid this, if you can, but sometimes, such a thing is not avoidable....but really try to avoid

These 3 principal is more or less, what I have been doing since years.
My updates intervals can also be called slow compared to most of the people in this forum, I think.
Q4 2007 from D805 to Q6600+HD3850
in Q2 2011 from HD3850 to HD6850
in late Q4 2015 from Q6600+HD6850 to E3-1231v3+gtx970
in Q2 2015 from a single gtx970 to 2x 970s
in Q3 2016 from 2xgtx970s to a single gtx1080
I am still running that E3-1231V3+GTX1080 until today Q1 2018. Still holding back from hitting the upgrade button. Ryzen 7 1800x and I7 8700k are very tempting tho'.

hmmm honestly, i agree at some of the point but also had few arguments:
1. sometimes people just can't afford those i5 / R5 at all or anytime soon, in this case, an i3 / R3 is fine tbh
2. waiting for a new gen / till u had enough money for better thing in some case, but that means during the time u had to wait, u got nothing to use, on the other hand, buying a lesser component first and upgrading later would mean at least you still had something to work with (+ you can always resale it later to regain some of the value)
3. only do this if the next gen is nearby and it's confirmed (like the Zen+, it's 1 month away and AMD had confirmed this) if it's still 5/6 month away, or unconfirmed, i'd rather go with the ones that are available right now

 

[aquivery.rez]

What i mean by dont want to oc is, i dont want to shorten its lifespan and ill just wait for zen+ im not in a rush and april is my birthmonth so yeah

 

[constantine_99]

What i mean by dont want to oc is, i dont want to shorten its lifespan and ill just wait for zen+ im not in a rush and april is my birthmonth so yeah

well OCing won't really shorten it by a significant margin, if done correctly of course. Most people like Linus / even GN mentioned the reduction won't be that much, prob from 10 years to 8, which in that case by the time that happen, you would want a new CPU anyway

besides, why says no to extra performance anyway

but if u insist on not doing it anyway, well it's your loss, HF with the new CPU later