Ryzen 1600X Microstutter & Lag

[UsernameAlex714]

Hello, and thank you for your time. I have searched the forums and haven't found a solution so I figured I'd ask away.

I currently just upgraded to a Ryzen platform.

My Specs:

Ryzen 1600X @ 4.1 (under load 76c)
MSI Tomahawk B350
Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 2800Mhz
GTX 1070 Founders Edition @ stock
Corsair 750TX P/S

I have the latest bios installed from MSI. I have downclocked my settings, changed to Ryzen Power Plan, tweaked wit nvidia settings and I cannot get it to stop. It doesn't happen in ALL games, but for battlefield 1 I'll dip from 100 to 50 when ADS and it's really bugging me. I hooked up my old rig i5 6600k h170 gaming 3 mobo and it works just fine so I know it's not the card or ps.

Could it maybe be a corrupt version of windows?

I have also made sure drivers are up to date have even uninstalled and rolled back drivers and nothing seems to work.

 

[dudeman509]

Was this a fresh install of Windows or an upgrade from a previous build?

 

[UsernameAlex714]

It was a fresh install of windows, I formatted my SSD and then installed Windows 10 from a boot USB.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

1. Did you wipe the HD and do a fresh install of Windows ? If not, that's what ya do now

2. I'd be hard pressed to call a move from 6600k to Ryzen 1600x an "upgrade" ... at least for a gaming box. Ryzen does many things better than comparably priced Intel CPUs but gaming is not one of them.

The 1600x is almost as fast as a 7600k ... and while the 7600k is faster than a 6600k, the difference in overclocking headroom would favor the 6660k. For gaming it's, at best, a lateral move.

A fresh install will likely solve ya problem but side by side with your old box, I don't see a significant change in performance coming your way.

EDIT:

Well since it was a fresh install, I'm stumped ... OTOH

You reinstalled Windows on the SSD ... but what abut everything else ? I assume "everything else' was on a HD ? Did you reinstall over the old programs and games so that Windows registry was properly set up ?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thats a good OC on that chip. I haven't really pushed mine that far yet. You must have a decent cooler. Temps at 75c on full load is good. What are you testing full load temps with?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

1. Did you wipe the HD and do a fresh install of Windows ? If not, that's what ya do now

2. I'd be hard pressed to call a move from 6600k to Ryzen 1600x an "upgrade" ... at least for a gaming box. Ryzen does many things better than comparably priced Intel CPUs but gaming is not one of them.

The 1600x is almost as fast as a 7600k ... and while the 7600k is faster than a 6600k, the difference in overclocking headroom would favor the 6660k. For gaming it's, at best, a lateral move.

A fresh install will likely solve ya problem but side by side with your old box, I don't see a significant change in performance coming your way.

EDIT:

Well since it was a fresh install, I'm stumped

I disagree, have you played on both chips Jack. The difference is very real. Try both on BF1 and report back. Tell me what the difference is then.

 

[COLGeek]

Have you installed the Ryzen chipset drivers (from AMD)?

 

[UsernameAlex714]

I may just try a fresh install of windows I guess. What's the hurt in it. I will post back in about an hour and let ya'll know what happens.

 

[UsernameAlex714]

Have you installed the Ryzen chipset drivers (from AMD)?

From my motherboard manufacturer?

 

[COLGeek]

Get them here: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows+10+-+64

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I disagree, have you played on both chips Jack. The difference is very real. Try both on BF1 and report back. Tell me what the difference is then.

Take it up with Techpowerup, Anandtech and the other review sites. They did the testing and published the **real** numbers. Again, overclocking will make the spread wider.

And that's average fps ... as for the dips OP is talking about, the results below seem applicable.

 

[UsernameAlex714]

I have the latest chipset drivers. I am going to reinstall Windows and see if that fixes the issue. I will report back.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Have you installed the Ryzen chipset drivers (from AMD)?

I'd also make sure step 4 was included ... as WU oft messes things up

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Win 10 is famous for borking driver installs. Win 7 wasn't fault free.

1. Prepare for Windows installation with USB tool or use available media
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool

2. Connect boot drive data cable to lowest numbered SATA port .... but don't connect:
-Ethernet cable
-SATA Data Cable for any other drives

3. Install Windows to boot drive

4. Turn off Windows ability to install Hardware drivers
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/48277-enable-disable-driver-updates-windows-update-windows-10-a.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/82137-drivers-turn-off-automatic-driver-installation.html

5. Install all hardware drivers from original media in boxes See Item 7 below

6. Connect ethernet cable and run Windows Update till it stops doing anything

7. Install latest drivers for ALL hardware from manufacturers web sites. The reason we didn't do this in step 5 is 3 fold:
-Sometimes MoBo CD comes with licensed utilities with product key embedded and these are not on web site versions
-Its advisable to establish a working out of box conditions
-Sometimes newer drivers require latest Windows Updates

If you have a 2nd drive ....

8. Shut down and connect HD data cable to 2nd lowest numbered SATA port.

9. Boot to BIOS and make sure that SSD is the 1st boot device, if not fix it

10. Boot to Windows

 

[UsernameAlex714]

Just got done reinstalling windows. Installing games right now and will be back to post results.

 

[monomono5]

I have the same problem but with ryzen 5 1600. So I will look at this post 😉

 

[monomono5]

If it helps try setting you RAM at lower frequency. In my case I think this is main reason of stuttering.

 

[LuxNuss]

Turn off DX12 if you haven't and play on DX11. Solved all of the above for me.

 

[monomono5]

Turn off DX12 if you haven't and play on DX11. Solved all of the above for me.

I still have low fps (i think so)

 

[YoAndy]

For gaming the i5 6600k is a better choice, games do perform better with faster and stronger cores. And gaming a 1080p intel's advantage is significant due to Ryzen lower IPC

 

[LuxNuss]

For gaming the i5 6600k is a better choice, games do perform better with faster and stronger cores. And gaming a 1080p intel's advantage is significant due to Ryzen lower IPC

Of course, if you have a choice, go for Intel for better single-core performance.

 

[UsernameAlex714]

I didn't buy the Ryzen to beat intel in gaming. I bought it because I do more than just gaming and benchmarks have shown that Ryzen definitely keeps up with Intel in the gaming field while managing to do other things simultaneously. Anyway, I clean install of windows fixed my issues. No more micro stutter or lag. My buddy told me that there is a chance that the windows creator update can become corrupt when downloading it from the app so installed it from Microsoft website and things are good.

 

[YoAndy]

I didn't buy the Ryzen to beat intel in gaming. I bought it because I do more than just gaming and benchmarks have shown that Ryzen definitely keeps up with Intel in the gaming field while managing to do other things simultaneously. Anyway, I clean install of windows fixed my issues. No more micro stutter or lag. My buddy told me that there is a chance that the windows creator update can become corrupt when downloading it from the app so installed it from Microsoft website and things are good.

When money is a problem you are correct..I didn't like the new windows creators update either I ended up doing a fresh install right after.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

For gaming the i5 6600k is a better choice, games do perform better with faster and stronger cores. And gaming a 1080p intel's advantage is significant due to Ryzen lower IPC

He "upgraded" from 6600k to Ryzen

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I didn't buy the Ryzen to beat intel in gaming. I bought it because I do more than just gaming and benchmarks have shown that Ryzen definitely keeps up with Intel in the gaming field while managing to do other things simultaneously. Anyway, I clean install of windows fixed my issues. No more micro stutter or lag. My buddy told me that there is a chance that the windows creator update can become corrupt when downloading it from the app so installed it from Microsoft website and things are good.

1. Glad the reinstall fixed things ... don't forget step 4 above... give it time and WU will screw up ya drivers.

2. And yes, if you need multi core performance Ryzen wil help you in may workstation type applications ... tho if that app is video editing, I would go with the 7800x which tops both CPUs in gaming and video editing

https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=42852&width=649

 

[YoAndy]

For gaming the i5 6600k is a better choice, games do perform better with faster and stronger cores. And gaming a 1080p intel's advantage is significant due to Ryzen lower IPC

He "upgraded" from 6600k to Ryzen

For gaming was a downgrade.