Ryzen 3 1200 or Ryzen 5 1600 is it worth the difference?

[xTorpeter]

Hi guys ill be building a pc soon
But im on a budget build 700USD
Composed of:
Ryzen 3 1200 will OC
AsRock AB350 Pro 4
Hyper X 8GB DDR4
Galax GTX 1060 3GB
Seasonic S12ii 620w
WD Blue 1TB
Crucial SSD 120GB
Tecware Edge TG Chassis

But is spending a 100$ more for a Ryzen 5 1600 worth it? In terms of gaming. I dont do editing or program or stuff. Will upgrade my graphics card in 1-2yrs.
Or can you guys recommend other budget build for gaming. Any opinion is welcome. Thanks

 

[Timstertimster]

I had the same dilemma and decided to go for r5 1600 as it seems to be the best bang for your buck, and future proof. If you're updating other components later...

The r5 has 2 threads per core so you get 3x the threads with just 2 more cores. And threads is what makes the difference when software properly utilizes the facility.

But is that worth an extra 100? Maybe, maybe not. Depends a lot on what software you're using and games.. the question becomes more about whether you NEED good multithreaded performance. As a workstation, that becomes a differentiator. In games I'm not certain, but I imagine future games will increasingly utilize multithreadig.

 

[photonboy]

UPDATE: I would drop the SSD and get the R5-1400 CPU instead. I would then PARTITION the HDD so C-drive (Windows) uses 100GB so you can easily CLONE to an SSD later (then delete the HDD Windows partition to recover the space).

Your choice as there are pros and cons to both. Windows boot up a bit faster and feels snappier with an SSD, but the CPU in particular can make some games stutter less etc.

Hi,
As a gaming build that's probably about the best you can do, and no don't go for the R5-1600 as you'd need to reduce the graphics card quite a bit.

Unless you INCREASE your budget that is, which is a great idea if you can since as said the R5-1600 is more future-proof though it will do better in some games now (not just FPS average, but some games will have less stutter).

Other:
*The DDR4 memory needs to be fairly fast. You should get a 2x4GB kit of at least 2666MHz (up to 3200MHz)

 

[photonboy]

YOUR rough build (tried to get closest) without Windows 10: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kpgDYr

I just wanted to confirm roughly $700USD, and the SSD price (about $60) which means you COULD SWAP THE SSD for an R5-1400.

If you can swing another $50 or so then you can have both, but...

The R5-1600 build, including SSD is roughly $770.

*So for about 10% more of the total hardware cost you can keep the SSD but have a much better CPU that you won't regret buying. I think you may regret the i5-1200, though it's hard to look at BENCHMARKS to show that.

You may just want to trust someone who considers himself very knowledgeable in gaming computers for that, but again it's about preventing stutters in some games mainly and having more future-proofing. The R5-1600 should be great for 5+ years. Basically just swap in a better video card in a couple years (at which point newer games will make better use of your 6C/12T CPU on average, unlike the R3-1200 which is 4C/4T).

 

[elbert]

The ryzen 1200 overclocked performs around an i5-7400. The ryzen 1600 on the otherhand equals an i5-7600k in games. I would suggest the 1200 and update it later. Updating to zen 2 or zen 3 with 6~8 core in 2 years should have higher clocks for the same price. AMD's second to third iteration on their sockets tend to be much better. Least that was the case of Agena, Deneb, and then Thuban

 

[photonboy]

The ryzen 1200 overclocked performs around an i5-7400. The ryzen 1600 on the otherhand equals an i5-7600k in games. I would suggest the 1200 and update it later. Updating to zen 2 or zen 3 with 6~8 core in 2 years should have higher clocks for the same price. AMD's second to third iteration on their sockets tend to be much better. Least that was the case of Agena, Deneb, and then Thuban

again though, there's more to benchmark results than the average FPS. Many games will have less STUTTER with a better CPU.

Sure he can update later (assuming AMD doesn't change their mind about long-term AM4 support), but is having a slightly worse experience for a few years worth $90 (upgrade to R5-1600)?

If it's a TIGHT BUDGET fine, but otherwise I just can't recommend it.

 

[neiler0847]

Tough call. Personally I won't build a machine without a 240 GB SSD for the OS and other programs. It provides boot speed, program load speed and a nice separation between your data/media and your installed programs. You need the 240 GB because SSDs last much longer when they are below capacity. For now I would try the Ryzen 3 1200 and get the 240 GB SSD. If you decide to upgrade the CPU in 6 months, there will still be some value in the Ryzen 3 1200 and you can sell it used to recoup a few bucks.