[SOLVED] Ryzen 3 2200g and Gtx 1060 3GB Worth it/Bottleneck?

[MEDVEDIC]

Buying additional PC for work and gaming in the future. Want advice on what CPU to pair with what GPU? I won't be buying the GPU immediately and in case of "emmergency" I want to have an integrated graphics so I was thinking Ryzen 3 2200g.

Budget is important, as for my work needs this CPU is more than enough and I can pair it with really cheap MB. On intel side the CPU prices are insane and the MBs are more expensive and there is absolutely no upgrade path. My main question is aimed at gaming performance, bottlenecking and best pricing.

If i pair the 2200g with 1060 3GB will I experience bottlenecking in current titles due to the CPU? I will be playing at 1080p or lower if need be. I haven't been playing anything for the past 6 or so years and have a lot to catch up to so I will mainly be playing those games and some new ones of course. Going up to 6GB or RX 580 8GB may be a real stretch for me. I'm not that much into it to spend that money and perhaps I'm better of with a 1050ti in the case of bottlenecking.

Also will the VRAM really mess me up. I hate stutter and slowdowns and if I experience it I won't play the game again. As I mentioned I will be playing titles released up until now and I'm aware that new ones will demand more. In that case if I lower the textures a bit will I get satisfying performance. I'm okay playing certain games at 30 fps and other at 60 fps ( shooters, racing etc. ) as long as it is consistent. Also I'm not crazy about ultra settings, as long as it doesn't look worse than consoles I'm fine.

Here are the cheapest options where I live. Can't order online due to import taxes which would make it as expensive and buying second hand is not an option. Brands like Asus, MSI and Gigabyte are between $50 and $100 more expensive for each option so I don't want to spend that much honestly. All prices in $US as of today.

CPU options:

Ryzen 3 2200g ---------------------------------------$120 <-<-<- Prefer this really.
i3 8100 ---------------------------------------------------$150

Ryzen 2400g ------------------------------------------$180
i5 8400 ---------------------------------------------------$350 <-<-<-<-<- Intel Prices??? WTF

GPU options:

Gtx 1060 Zotac 3GB -------------------------------$230 <-<-<- Is Zotac any good?
Gtx 1060 Zotac Mini 6GB -----------------------$300

Rx 580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB -------------------$320 <-<-<- What brand is this?

Gtx 1050ti Zotac 4GB ----------------------------$200

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Potential Build:
CPU: Ryzen 3 2200g ------------------------------$120 --------------------Seems like a good option?
GPU: GTX 1060 3GB ------------------------------$230 --------------------Will it be bottlenecked by this CPU?
RAM: Kingston Fury 8GB/16GB -------------$55/110 ---------------Finally cheap RAM prices.
SSD: Kingston A400 240GB -------------------$40 ----------------------Not Samsung or M2 SSD but good enough for my needs.
MB: A320 Basic ones -----------------------------$60 ----------------------Don't need anything fancy
PSU: Will decide later ...
OS: Win 10 home (owned / will migrate )
Case: Will decide later

So around $500 for this build. Worth it? Bottleneck? Better alternatives? Please advise, thank you.

P.S. For a long time I wanted to buy a PS4 but it is over $500 now ( a $100 price rise in the last few months ) $700 for pro version, so I simply refuse to pay that much. The XBOX ONE S is $300 but doesn't offer any games I wouldn't be able to play on the PC.

 

[momowicket]

"Bottleneck" is a really generic term - It'll depend entirely on the specific task/title.

For gaming at 1080p, they'd be fairly well balanced IMO.

I wouldn't run out & buy a 2200G to pair with a 1060 (as the iGP of the 2200G is wasted), as some of the Ryzen5 options should be similar money.
BUT, if you currently own the 2200G and want to add a discreet GPU, a 3GB 1060 should pair very nicely with it.

Also A320 is probably not worth it over B450, even if it's just a cheap B450 mobo but thats all up to you. And what do you mean by "what brand is this?", do you mean Sapphire or AMD? The RX580 will beat the 1060 3gb and 6gb in most games and will probably age better as well.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Also A320 is probably not worth it over B450, even if it's just a cheap B450 mobo but thats all up to you. And what do you mean by "what brand is this?", do you mean Sapphire or AMD? The RX580 will beat the 1060 3gb and 6gb in most games and will probably age better as well.

But if I buy a CPU with no integrated GPU I won't be able to use until I buy a discrete GPU. I won't be buying the GPU right away as mentioned. The b450 are around 50% more expensive which is why I went with A320 but I can modify.

I meant Zotac and Pulse, not AMD of course. Just wandering if these are reliable brands that's all.

 

[momowicket]

But if I buy a CPU with no integrated GPU I won't be able to use until I buy a discrete GPU. I won't be buying the GPU right away as mentioned. The b450 are around 50% more expensive which is why I went with A320 but I can modify.

I meant Zotac and Pulse, not AMD of course. Just wandering if these are reliable brands that's all.

I've heard of Zotac once or twice but have no idea about any of their products but I do know that Sapphire Pulse is considered one of the best in the market and value aswell. Sapphire is the company that makes AMDs cards, AMD makes the chips and Sapphire does the rest, I'm not sure which cards though but I think it's most/all reference cards.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

No, a 2200g will not bottleneck a 1060 3gb.
That rx580 is from sapphire, a good brand.
Zotac is a good brand aswell.

The integrated vega 8 gpu in the 2200g is actually pretty powerfull and will game 1080p lowest in titles like fortnite. You can allow it to use 2 or 3gb vram in bios depending on mobo.

The 3gb 1060s vram is a bit of a limit but should be fine for most titles. You could buy an inexpensive AMD rx570 4 or 8gb for simmilar performance and more vram compared to a much more expensive 1060 3gb

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Thanks guys, so the RX 570 4GB Sapphire goes for $190 and the 8GB version for $250. Doesn't look like a card that can utilize the 8GB but 4 seem a lot better than 3 on the 1060. I was considering a 1050ti but 570 looks like a better deal for the same money. Will look into it further.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

570 creams the 1050ti but does draw more power.
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $91.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $66.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $29.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.49 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card | $119.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $557.22
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $507.22
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-04 09:39 EDT-0400 |
What do you think of this?

 

[momowicket]

The RX570 4gb or 8gb probably is the best choice value wise as remixislandmusic said. It beats the 1050ti and can put up a fight against a 1060.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

570 creams the 1050ti but does draw more power.
PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $91.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $66.89 @ OutletPC
Memory | OLOy - 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $29.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $48.49 @ Amazon
Video Card | Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card | $119.99 @ Newegg
Case | Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $39.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $557.22
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $507.22
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-04 09:39 EDT-0400 |
What do you think of this?

Should have mentioned I'm not from the US, ( I'm in Serbia, south-east Europe ) and as stated the import taxes for ordering online are too high plus shipping would be astronomical. I don't need a case or additional HDD. I haven't seen OLOy RAM here so I will stick to Kingston as I now they are reliable and the prices are low now ( still a lot higher than in the states but what can I do ). I specified the cheapes prices I could find here.

Stuff can be found cheaper here from people that sell online what they "import" themselves and a huge number of people buy that way, but there is no warranty and I'm screwed if something goes wrong. I don't now exactly how the warranty system works in the US but here it is 2-3 years mandatory for all ellectronics, plus 5-10 years on RAM and SSDs, so that gives me a piece of mind.

I should also mention that OCing will void the warranty so I'm not too keen on doing that.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Yes, however, B450 is receiving bios updates for newer CPUs. A320 may not work with the 2200g out of the box since it needs a bios update.
I would look into a setup similar to that list above in your country. You could go to 8gb ram and omit the case and hdd since you have them.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Yes, however, B450 is receiving bios updates for newer CPUs. A320 may not work with the 2200g out of the box since it needs a bios update.
I would look into a setup similar to that list above in your country. You could go to 8gb ram and omit the case and hdd since you have them.

Didn't know that about 320. Thank you for the info will go with 450. Yeah extra 8 gb RAM seems like a good option.

 

[tennis2]

Asus RX580 4GB = $130 after promo code EMCSTATY2 and MIR (ends today)

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Good deal but he has to buy the card in his country.

 

[tennis2]

Oops missed that. All I saw was USD prices being mentioned.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Oops missed that. All I saw was USD prices being mentioned.

Yeah, I put the prices in USD for ease of understanding so there is no confusion on how much they actually cost here.

 

[tennis2]

Problem is, that's not your local currency. So you're actually causing confusion, AND we have to convert back to your local currency in order to shop in your market. (No worries, this happens all the time here)

 

[Finstar]

Sapphire is pretty much the go to brand for AMD gpus.
Zotac however has gone downhill and I wouldn't even consider their cards anymore.
As for the 1060 3gb it gets completely crippled by it's lack of VRAM.
The 1050 ti is also rather overpriced and pointless.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Problem is, that's not your local currency. So you're actually causing confusion, AND we have to convert back to your local currency in order to shop in your market. (No worries, this happens all the time here)

Didn't know that, sorry. Just assumed most people are familiar with USD. If it's actually easier here's the pricing in RSD ( RSD = USDx100 ):

CPU options:

Ryzen 3 2200g ---------------------------------------RSD 12.000
i3 8100 ---------------------------------------------------RSD 15.000

Ryzen 2400g ------------------------------------------RSD 18.000

GPU options:

Gtx 1060 Zotac 3GB -------------------------------RSD 23.000
Gtx 1060 Zotac Mini 6GB -----------------------RSD 30.000

Rx 580 Sapphire Pulse 8GB -------------------RSD 32.000

Gtx 1050ti Zotac 4GB ----------------------------RSD 20.000

Rx 570 Sapphire Pulse 4GB -------------------RSD 19.000 <-<-<- seems like the best option so far.

 

[MEDVEDIC]

Sapphire is pretty much the go to brand for AMD gpus.
Zotac however has gone downhill and I wouldn't even consider their cards anymore.
As for the 1060 3gb it gets completely crippled by it's lack of VRAM.
The 1050 ti is also rather overpriced and pointless.

So Sapphire is good, thanks.

If Zotac is a no go and that VRAM is such an issue than the cheapest GTX 1060 6GB is double the price: MSI GTX 1060 6GB Armor: RSD 44.000
No way I'm paying 440 bucks for that honestly.

The Sapphire RX 570 looks like the best bet so far for RSD 19.000 same price as Zotac 1050ti.

 

[Finstar]

So Sapphire is good, thanks.

If Zotac is a no go and that VRAM is such an issue than the cheapest GTX 1060 6GB is double the price: MSI GTX 1060 6GB Armor: RSD 44.000
No way I'm paying 440 bucks for that honestly.

The Sapphire RX 570 looks like the best bet so far for RSD 19.000 same price as Zotac 1050ti.

Yes, the RX 570 beats the 1050 ti by a large margin.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-570-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3924vs3649

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Sapphire RX 570 4gb is the best option in my mind. Performs mid-pack overall, has a decent size 4gb frame buffer, comes from a good brand, and is the cheapest.
The 570 4gb creams a 1050ti. The 1050ti only makes sense if you are stuck with a prebuilt where you need a small card that doesn't need any additional power connectors.

 

[tennis2]

Another vote for RX570 4GB from me.

 

[Dreamevil55]

Go with the RX 570 if it's the same price as the 1050 Ti. Sapphire is pretty much the go to brand for AMD stuff. Just make sure to get a decent PSU, RX cards are hot.
However, Zotac is a great brand too. Just for future reference. Any GPU brand no matter how lesser known it is, are good, like Palit, Inno3D, Ganiward etc.It all depends on the regional availability and customer support. EVGA have the best support in the US and Canada area, while Zotac have it in SEA. Can't even find any EVGA product in the SEA area lol. The only recent gpu AIB to screw things up is Gigabyte with their Radeon Vega cards.