Question Ryzen 3 2200g is not functioned normally

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
PamanD0n

PamanD0n

Apr 7, 2019
27
0
30
Hey, this is my new post, please be nice :)

So here is a thing, i have bought this cpu (ryzen 3 2200g)last year and I've bought an rx 580 on january and play normally until now.
I oc'ed the cpu to 3.85ghz with 1.375v and play with it no problem, before that i oc'ed to 3.9ghz with 1.4v but it wasnt stable at all so i downclocked it to 3.85ghz as mentioned and used this settings until now.

When I play rust for about 3 to 4 hours specifically, it suddenly showing no post screen and motherboard was showing cpu debug light on.
I've tried clear the cmos and it showed post. so i turned the previous settings at bios and it work to windows normally until like 30 minutes and then it repeated the "no post screen" again. And then i cleared the cmos again and it showed the windows again, but this time i used default settings except xmp profile on ram.

Unfortunately, 30 minutes after windows appeared it showed no post again and cpu debug light turned on.
Previous month i have updated the bios to latest version so i dont think the bios caused the issue.

Spec:
Cpu : ryzen 3 2200g
Gpu : msi rx 580 8gb armor k1
Ram : v-gen tsunami 8gb @3200mhz
Motherboard : msi b350m bazooka
Psu : be quiet! U9 600w

Any help will be much appreciated :) thanks before
 
Sort by date Sort by votes
PamanD0n said:
Hey, this is my new post, please be nice :)

So here is a thing, i have bought this cpu (ryzen 3 2200g)last year and I've bought an rx 580 on january and play normally until now.
I oc'ed the cpu to 3.85ghz with 1.375v and play with it no problem, before that i oc'ed to 3.9ghz with 1.4v but it wasnt stable at all so i downclocked it to 3.85ghz as mentioned and used this settings until now.

When I play rust for about 3 to 4 hours specifically, it suddenly showing no post screen and motherboard was showing cpu debug light on.
I've tried clear the cmos and it showed post. so i turned the previous settings at bios and it work to windows normally until like 30 minutes and then it repeated the "no post screen" again. And then i cleared the cmos again and it showed the windows again, but this time i used default settings except xmp profile on ram.

Unfortunately, 30 minutes after windows appeared it showed no post again and cpu debug light turned on.
Previous month i have updated the bios to latest version so i dont think the bios caused the issue.

Spec:
Cpu : ryzen 3 2200g
Gpu : msi rx 580 8gb armor k1
Ram : v-gen tsunami 8gb @3200mhz
Motherboard : msi b350m bazooka
Psu : be quiet! U9 600w

Any help will be much appreciated :) thanks before
Click to expand...

What cooling are you using?

I wouldn't be overclocking using stock 2200g wraith cooler, and definitely not to those levels.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
drea.drechsler said:
Certainly a better cooler :)

You might try bumping up voltage a notch or two, keep an eye on temps and if still in control you'll be good. Remember: 1.425 is a safe max voltage so long as temp is staying controlled.
Click to expand...
I dont think the voltage is causing the issue because last time i used default bios settings so that cpu and voltage was on auto 🙁
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
PamanD0n said:
I dont think the voltage is causing the issue because last time i used default bios settings so that cpu and voltage was on auto 🙁
Click to expand...

What does 'CPU.... on auto' mean? I know what voltage on auto means; that sometimes works but with a limited overclock potential. And sometimes with much higher voltage than you want when the processor is lightly loaded.

If you were borderline stable before you may not have known. Since then, things change. Weather changes and room temp changes, Windows has had...how many updates? that changes what's running in background. Even your hardware ages...TIM dries out, and dust accumulates on the fins of heatsinks. If you were right on the edge before all it needed was a small change to do it.

The only way to know the system can go through those kinds of changes with confidence it will remain stable is to de-rate your overclock and that's what Prime95 testing helps with. Otherwise: when it goes unstable you bring down the frequency, or bump up the voltage and watch the temperature.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PamanD0n
Upvote 0 Downvote
remixislandmusic said:
Its a free program that stresses the cpu by making it calculate prime numbers. It will tell you if any of the results are incorrect, showing an unstable overclock. It also ramps temperatures up to see if your oc is thermally ok.
Click to expand...
I've tried 3.85ghz core clock at 1.4v on bios and the result of blend option on prime95 is passed on worker 4 and the maximum temp was 76°c. What does that mean?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
drea.drechsler said:
What does 'CPU.... on auto' mean? I know what voltage on auto means; that sometimes works but with a limited overclock potential. And sometimes with much higher voltage than you want when the processor is lightly loaded.

If you were borderline stable before you may not have known. Since then, things change. Weather changes and room temp changes, Windows has had...how many updates? that changes what's running in background. Even your hardware ages...TIM dries out, and dust accumulates on the fins of heatsinks. If you were right on the edge before all it needed was a small change to do it.

The only way to know the system can go through those kinds of changes with confidence it will remain stable is to de-rate your overclock and that's what Prime95 testing helps with. Otherwise: when it goes unstable you bring down the frequency, or bump up the voltage and watch the temperature.
Click to expand...
Actually u are right, i noticed the dust in heatsink fan, and as i mentioned. I just dont accept the fact that the cpu gone weak this fast.. anyways thanks for the feedback, appreciated it.
I guess im just kinda new into gaming build cause i built in my own.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Ok.. so i accidentally stopped the test in 18 minutes and it said 0 errors, 0 warnings. I guess bumping the voltage worked? How is that possible? Do i really need to use this settings on daily use?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
PamanD0n said:
....I just dont accept the fact that the cpu gone weak this fast.. anyways thanks for the feedback, appreciated it.....
Click to expand...

It's not just the CPU that changes...capacitors and inductors (on the motherboard) age and the VRM FET's age and the cooling of the the FET's changes. That affects stability of the voltage to the CPU. It just happens as a brand-new system settles in...it's not really broken in until 6 months to a year of use. That's why assuring you have margin is a good thing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PamanD0n
Upvote 0 Downvote
drea.drechsler said:
It's not just the CPU that changes...capacitors and inductors (on the motherboard) age and the VRM FET's age and the cooling of the the FET's changes. That affects stability of the voltage to the CPU. It just happens as a brand-new system settles in...it's not really broken in until 6 months to a year of use. That's why assuring you have margin is a good thing.
Click to expand...
I see.. it makes sense on how the way you explain things work.. thanks for advance!
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
remixislandmusic said:
That means your overclock settings should be stable. I would run the small fft test in prime 95 (should prompt you at program start) for awhile to make sure it doesnt give you any errors after running the test for awhile.
Click to expand...
I've runned small fft test and it gave me 76.5°c on temp for about 20 minutes now. Last time on default settings it showed no post screen even though I was just playing music on spotify. Does it mean that the voltage im using now is stable? Does it really safe to use this settings on daily use?
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Overclocking can be great and terrible if it is not completely stable.
For every day usage I would run Prime 95 about 4 hours, switch over to OCCTCheck video and both cpu tests for an hour or so each Then the power supply test, which loads the CPU and video (integrated or discrete) hard. Run it about 4 hours, a good hard gaming session length of time and check the log for temps ,voltages,fan speeds.
20 minutes is no where near enough time to heat the motherboard and case up to gaming temps.
My folding machines get tortured for a minimum of 2 days of each and then 3 or 4 days of running all of them at once, they have to be 100% stable.
A very slightly unstable overclock will slowly corrupt the hard drive a little at a time. Then you start having boot problems ,hanging, slow response times ETC.............. and you wonder why and end up reinstalling windows your games and everything else AGAIN.
Make sure your overclock is truly stable.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Achaios said:
Nah, Mr. MODERATOR ADVISORY EXPLICIT STUPIDITY.

Guess that wherever it is you come from, you fellas have never heard of Acronis True Image and backing up your C (OS) drive.

That way, even if your C drive gets corrupted, you can wholly restore it from the back up via Acronis in safe mode. Takes about an hour for a 500 GB SSD.

Reinstalling everything from the beginning ain't very smart. Guess you wouldn't be the sharpest tool in the shed, would ya?
Click to expand...


I have back up images for all of my computers. But if your daily backups are corrupted they are useless.
MOST people DO NOT have back up images or any sort of back up plan.
My computers run 24/7/365 @ 100%load on the GPU and CPU is 70-80 percent ,as one core is dedicated to feeding the GPU.
My main computer also serves as my work computer for Architectural drawings for custom homes,Horse barns, Cottages etc.....

If you want to insult someones intelligence, first make sure they are not smarter than you are.
I have an IQ of 138 and I'm 56 years old. How bout you???
 
  • Like
Reactions: Deleted member 14196
Upvote 0 Downvote
Shots fired. You aren't toddlers, and there is no need to fight.
Anyhow for some logical arguments, I have always heard if your CPU is stable and cool after an hour or 2 in prime 95, it is sure to be stable in games. It is uncommon for your CPU to be pegged at 100% for hours on end without a break with a gaming system, as there are breaks in between levels. Just run prime 95 for a while and run some games. If nothing crashes and you don't notice any anomalies, I would call the overclock stable. Whether it would help in this case or not, you should always backup important data.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
I wouldn't run XMP memory profile on Ryzen, I'm surprised it works out of the box. My ryzen won't boot at all with XMP profile on my memory. I had to start from 2133mhz and manually time and overclock the memory.

Also, you should play around with lowering the clock of you CPU and overclocking the GPU instead. Depending on the game, more people are getting higher FPS that way.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom