Question Ryzen 3 2200g is not functioned normally

[PamanD0n]

Hey, this is my new post, please be nice

So here is a thing, i have bought this cpu (ryzen 3 2200g)last year and I've bought an rx 580 on january and play normally until now.
I oc'ed the cpu to 3.85ghz with 1.375v and play with it no problem, before that i oc'ed to 3.9ghz with 1.4v but it wasnt stable at all so i downclocked it to 3.85ghz as mentioned and used this settings until now.

When I play rust for about 3 to 4 hours specifically, it suddenly showing no post screen and motherboard was showing cpu debug light on.
I've tried clear the cmos and it showed post. so i turned the previous settings at bios and it work to windows normally until like 30 minutes and then it repeated the "no post screen" again. And then i cleared the cmos again and it showed the windows again, but this time i used default settings except xmp profile on ram.

Unfortunately, 30 minutes after windows appeared it showed no post again and cpu debug light turned on.
Previous month i have updated the bios to latest version so i dont think the bios caused the issue.

Spec:
Cpu : ryzen 3 2200g
Gpu : msi rx 580 8gb armor k1
Ram : v-gen tsunami 8gb @3200mhz
Motherboard : msi b350m bazooka
Psu : be quiet! U9 600w

Any help will be much appreciated thanks before

 

[Rogue Leader]

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Reinstalling everything from the beginning ain't very smart. Guess you wouldn't be the sharpest tool in the shed, would ya?

If you want to insult someones intelligence, first make sure they are not smarter than you are.
I have an IQ of 138 and I'm 56 years old. How bout you???

Hey guys how about we drop the personal attacks and stop the measuring contest. If you're not helping the OP in your reply let it go, and specifically Achaios that was uncalled for, next time you're getting a formal warning.

 

[PamanD0n]

You just got unlucky. I enabled XMP 3200mhz with auto voltage and it is completely stable on a R3 1200, even with a cpu oc.

Im sorry sir but it is happening again, but this time, it wont let me enter the bios for a period of time, did my cpu just died? I havent touch my pc until i turned it on just now today, but it worked yesterday

 

[PamanD0n]

I have tried unplug the gpu and try onboard graphics and clear cmos, there is no screen post and no ez debug light now 🙁

 

[gggplaya]

Actually anything over 2933mhz on the 2200g is considered an overclock. Disable XMP and turn off any overclocks to the cpu and gpu as well. Make sure your system is stable and start from there.

 

[PamanD0n]

Actually anything over 2933mhz on the 2200g is considered an overclock. Disable XMP and turn off any overclocks to the cpu and gpu as well. Make sure your system is stable and start from there.

The problem is... it wont even let me to my bios as it shows no post screen.. cpu fan is on 100%, kinda loud as usual.. right now the monitor is connected to onboard graphics

 

[Deleted member 14196]

we run XMP on all our ryzen 2 workstations... lol, no problems. we only use AMD in our shop. OP are you having video troubles? can't see bios and windows screen?

 

[PamanD0n]

we run XMP on all our ryzen 2 workstations... lol, no problems. we only use AMD in our shop. OP are you having video troubles? can't see bios and windows screen?

There is no post screen, tried swapping cpu still got same issue, but cpu fan is turning and motherboard lights turned on, no ez debug light

 

[gggplaya]

You might have also killed your motherboard, 1.4v voltage might be high for a B350m board's VRMs, depending on the wattage used. What kind of cooling do you have in your case, hopefully decent cooling?

 

[PamanD0n]

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You might have also killed your motherboard, 1.4v voltage might be high for a B350m board's VRMs, depending on the wattage used. What kind of cooling do you have in your case, hopefully decent cooling?

Actually its an old case, it just has 2 120mm exhaust fans and 1 big fan bigger than 140mm on the side of the case. They are all powered by molex

 

[gggplaya]

Is the side fan at least blowing directly on the motherboard? Does the airflow have a logical path to flow over the motherboard?? Many of the old school cheap chinese cases had really dumb airflow patterns. Like randomly placing fans in places and hope for the best.

 

[PamanD0n]

Is the side fan at least blowing directly on the motherboard? Does the airflow have a logical path to flow over the motherboard?? Many of the old school cheap chinese cases had really dumb airflow patterns. Like randomly placing fans in places and hope for the best.

Yes it does, so basically it blows from the side of the case blowing directly to the motherboard, then exhaust from up and rear case.

 

[gggplaya]

Did you use a brand new power supply in this build?? Perhaps not all the voltage rails are operating. Do you have a multimeter?? You can use a jumper wire or paper click to turn the supply on, and use a multimeter to check each pin to verify they have the correct voltage. This link will show you the pinout table: http://support.antec.com/support/so...19-is-my-power-supply-dead-the-paperclip-test

 

[PamanD0n]

Did you use a brand new power supply in this build?? Perhaps not all the voltage rails are operating. Do you have a multimeter?? You can use a jumper wire or paper click to turn the supply on, and use a multimeter to check each pin to verify they have the correct voltage. This link will show you the pinout table: http://support.antec.com/support/so...19-is-my-power-supply-dead-the-paperclip-test

Yes its a brand new psu, no i dont have multimeter all of the other stuff 🙁

 

[Barty1884]

@PamanD0n

If you remove the RX580 fully from the system, do you get a display-out from the 2200G? Might have to clear the CMOS again.

Now, from the instability, random loss of signal.... Have you actually tried to run the system at stock settings? Remove the overclock, disable XMP. Does the issue remain at that point?
If not, then you're either looking at an unstable OC or, less likely, a power draw your PSU is not capable of supplying.

Is this a relatively new OS install, specific to this hardware? Or is it an OS drive you migrated from another system?

 

[gggplaya]

I would try a different power supply if you happen to have an old one(could be lower power) laying around, or a friend has one laying around.

Also, try 1 ram stick, you may have a bad one as a possiblity. If it still doesn't work, then swap it out for the other stick, it's possible 1 is bad but very unlikely both are bad. Essentially we're just trying to narrow down any bad components.

 

[PamanD0n]

@PamanD0n

If you remove the RX580 fully from the system, do you get a display-out from the 2200G? Might have to clear the CMOS again.

Now, from the instability, random loss of signal.... Have you actually tried to run the system at stock settings? Remove the overclock, disable XMP. Does the issue remain at that point?
If not, then you're either looking at an unstable OC or, less likely, a power draw your PSU is not capable of supplying.

Is this a relatively new OS install, specific to this hardware? Or is it an OS drive you migrated from another system?

Currently the rx 580 is not plugged in and the cable of the monitor is going to onboard graphics, yes i've tried clear cmos but it still gives me no post screen, no ez debug light, but the motherboard backrgound lights and cpu heatsink is on..

No i have not, I always use oc settings 3.85ghz at 1.38v and yesterday i used 3.85ghz at 1.4v like previous post.

Yes it is new os install and i have runned it since i bought this computer.

 

[PamanD0n]

I would try a different power supply if you happen to have an old one(could be lower power) laying around, or a friend has one laying around.

Also, try 1 ram stick, you may have a bad one as a possiblity. If it still doesn't work, then swap it out for the other stick, it's possible 1 is bad but very unlikely both are bad. Essentially we're just trying to narrow down any bad components.

Unfortunately I dont have other psu.. I am affraid im the only one into pc building as my other friends are on other regions.

I have tried 1 ram stick and switched the other one. Nothing worked. Also the ram debug light is supposed to be turned on if somethings wrong on ram right?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

OCCT has been updated in a long time.

 

[gggplaya]

Try unplugging any and all peripherals as well, leave only the keyboard, mouse and monitor.

Also, make sure you didn't accidentally disconnect anything, like the CPU power plug or anything like that.

--You swapped CPU, so it's not CPU.
--You Checked memory, so it's not that.
--Removed video card and tried on board video so it's not that.

1. Can't check power supply without a meter, still a possiblity.
2. Motherboard is hard to check, still a possibility.

If you think you've exhausted all possible methods of troubleshooting at home, then I would try to start some warranty returns. Start with the power supply, then the motherboard.

 

[PamanD0n]

Try unplugging any and all peripherals as well, leave only the keyboard, mouse and monitor.

Also, make sure you didn't accidentally disconnect anything, like the CPU power plug or anything like that.

--You swapped CPU, so it's not CPU.
--You Checked memory, so it's not that.
--Removed video card and tried on board video so it's not that.

1. Can't check power supply without a meter, still a possiblity.
2. Motherboard is hard to check, still a possibility.

If you think you've exhausted all possible methods of troubleshooting at home, then I would try to start some warranty returns. Start with the power supply, then the motherboard.

I will try to check all the components tomorrow at pc store, but i have a feeling that motherboard is faulty, anyways thanks for advices, apprecate it

 

[Darkbreeze]

It doesn't matter if the GPU card is "plugged in" or not. Remove it from the motherboard, otherwise it will usually cause issues when trying to use the integrated graphics. Also, when switching from discreet graphics card to iGPU, if there are problems, it's a good idea to do a hard reset of the BIOS/CMOS, as follows.

Power off the unit, switch the PSU off and unplug the PSU cord from either the wall or the power supply.

Remove the motherboard CMOS battery for five minutes. During that five minutes, press the power button on the case for 30 seconds. After the five minutes is up, reinstall the CMOS battery making sure to insert it with the correct side up just as it came out.

Now, plug the power supply cable back in, switch the PSU back on and power up the system. It should display the POST screen and the options to enter CMOS/BIOS setup. Enter the bios setup program and reconfigure the boot settings for either the Windows boot manager or for legacy systems, the drive your OS is installed on if necessary.

Save settings and exit. If the system will POST and boot then you can move forward from there including going back into the bios and configuring any other custom settings you may need to configure such as Memory XMP profile settings, custom fan profile settings or other specific settings you may have previously had configured that were wiped out by resetting the CMOS.

Either way, remove the graphics card ANYTIME you are not going to be plugging your monitor cable into the outputs on it. It just confuses the motherboard to have a graphics card installed but not connected to the display. It is still getting slot power whether you have the PSU leads attached to it or not, so it is still being recognized and the system is still attempting to use it. If you are going to use integrated graphics for troubleshooting, you NEED to remove the graphics card until you are done troubleshooting.

 

[gggplaya]

Maybe there's a language translation barrier. When he said his GPU was not plugged in, I thought he meant it wasn't even in the PCIe slot. If you only meant the power connector to the GPU, then you definitely need to pull the card as well. The card still draws power from the PCIe slot, up to 75watts and can still communicate with the motherboard, so the iGPU won't be enabled.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Which was my point. I could be wrong, but I SEE this so often, and most users figuring well, the monitor cable and PCI power cables aren't attached to it so that should be fine, but no, it is not. So if that is not the case, then at least we will have eliminated another possibility as part of the process. Never overlook ANY basic tenet of building, because USUALLY, one of them is to blame.

 

[PamanD0n]

Ye

It doesn't matter if the GPU card is "plugged in" or not. Remove it from the motherboard, otherwise it will usually cause issues when trying to use the integrated graphics. Also, when switching from discreet graphics card to iGPU, if there are problems, it's a good idea to do a hard reset of the BIOS/CMOS, as follows.

Power off the unit, switch the PSU off and unplug the PSU cord from either the wall or the power supply.

Remove the motherboard CMOS battery for five minutes. During that five minutes, press the power button on the case for 30 seconds. After the five minutes is up, reinstall the CMOS battery making sure to insert it with the correct side up just as it came out.

Now, plug the power supply cable back in, switch the PSU back on and power up the system. It should display the POST screen and the options to enter CMOS/BIOS setup. Enter the bios setup program and reconfigure the boot settings for either the Windows boot manager or for legacy systems, the drive your OS is installed on if necessary.

Save settings and exit. If the system will POST and boot then you can move forward from there including going back into the bios and configuring any other custom settings you may need to configure such as Memory XMP profile settings, custom fan profile settings or other specific settings you may have previously had configured that were wiped out by resetting the CMOS.

Either way, remove the graphics card ANYTIME you are not going to be plugging your monitor cable into the outputs on it. It just confuses the motherboard to have a graphics card installed but not connected to the display. It is still getting slot power whether you have the PSU leads attached to it or not, so it is still being recognized and the system is still attempting to use it. If you are going to use integrated graphics for troubleshooting, you NEED to remove the graphics card until you are done troubleshooting.

Yes what i meant by unplugging gpu is actually pulling the gpu all the way out of motherboard. I've done cmos hard reset the way you said just now but nothing happen, just the cpu debug led turned on..

 

[Darkbreeze]

If you have a CPU code, then I'd pull the CPU and check for bent pins. These are almost always due to an improper installation, and yes, even with bent pins the system will often start and run, for a while. Not always, but often. Until they don't. A minor bend can turn into a broken pin eventually. I'd pull it all apart and bench test it, after checking closely for bent CPU pins.