[SOLVED] Ryzen 3 2200g runs like crap. I’ve got 8gb Ram and APU. But the pc is struggling even with very basic games

[Yaspa]

Ryzen 3 2200g can’t handle very basic games. I have 8gb of RAM, but GPU shows 1 GB, I can’t play anything, WOT goes on Low, GTA 5 can’t run at all. I’m desperate if anyone can help

 

[mitch074]

You have 8gb with how many sticks? Did you try installing the latest BIOS? Try setting up a fixed size in BIOS then going back in the BIOS again after reboot.

 

[Yaspa]

1stick for 8gb,
You have 8gb with his many sticks? Did you try installing the latest BIOS? Try setting up a fixed size in BIOS then going back in the BIOS again after reboot.

 

[Nemesia]

The Maximum VRAM you can set in the BIOS is 2GB. You're running in single channel instead of dual channel with only 1 stick. That's ~ 30% fps lost in some titles.

 

[Yaspa]

The Maximum VRAM you can set in the BIOS is 2GB. You're running in single channel instead of dual channel with only 1 stick. That's ~ 30% fps lost in some titles.

So you mean 2 sticks are required?

 

[mitch074]

So you mean 2 sticks are required?

For good performance? Yes. They also need to be rather high clocked (3200MHz is sweet spot) and said clock needs to be enabled. 2x8 Gb at 3200 MHz makes these APU sing.
The sticks need to be identical (maker, model, size, reference)

 

[mitch074]

The Maximum VRAM you can set in the BIOS is 2GB. You're running in single channel instead of dual channel with only 1 stick. That's ~ 30% fps lost in some titles.

Actually it depends on the board maker and BIOS revision. It can also be a bit quirky: a motherboard of mine with 2x8Gb did not allow me to allocate more than 512 Mb on first boot, I had to set up the BIOS first, save, reboot, enter the BIOS again and then I could allocate up to 4Gb (or 25% of installed RAM).

 

[Yaspa]

For good performance? Yes. They also need to be rather high clocked (3200MHz is sweet spot) and said clock needs to be enabled. 2x8 Gb at 3200 MHz makes these APU sing.

I just allocated 2gb for GPU, it helped a bit. I’ve got really silly question, can one overclock RAM to run faster? I really am noob in this imao

 

[mitch074]

I just allocated 2gb for GPU, it helped a bit. I’ve got really silly question, can one overclock RAM to run faster? I really am noob in this imao

Best thing is to enable XMP. Can be called XMP, A-XMP, AMP, RAM overclock or DOCP depending on motherboard maker. Switch it on in BIOS.

 

[Yaspa]

Best thing is to enable XMP. Can be called XMP, A-XMP, AMP, RAM overclock or DOCP depending on motherboard maker. Switch it on in BIOS.

Will try for sure. This community is awesome, you helped me so fast. Comrades will never forget you

 

[mitch074]

Will try for sure. This community is awesome, you helped me so fast. Comrades will never forget you

Depending on the RAM you have, this can improve RAM speed from 20 to 50%, however getting a second, identical RAM stick in the proper slot would double RAM speed on top of that. APUs are starved for memory bandwidth, the more they get the faster they are.

 

[Yaspa]

Depending on the RAM you have, this can improve RAM speed from 20 to 50%, however getting a second, identical RAM stick in the proper slot would double RAM speed on top of that. APUs are starved for memory bandwidth, the more they get the faster they are.

The only thing is I bought my RAM a year ago from AliExpress, now it kinda expensive. One can buy the same speed 20% cheaper from local store but different brand. So I guess I’ll pick same speed and try to pair them

 

[mitch074]

The only thing is I bought my RAM a year ago from AliExpress, now it kinda expensive. One can buy the same speed 20% cheaper from local store but different brand. So I guess I’ll pick same speed and try to pair them

You can try. It may just work, but you may need to manually tweak the settings for stability.

 

[Yaspa]

You can try. It may just work, but you may need to manually tweak the settings for stability.

There is no such thing as xmp or other names, the only thing I can change is memory multiplier, manually to numbers

 

[Flayed]

The only thing is I bought my RAM a year ago from AliExpress, now it kinda expensive. One can buy the same speed 20% cheaper from local store but different brand. So I guess I’ll pick same speed and try to pair them

Instead of spending money on ram to improve graphics performance of your APU you could buy a cheap GPU such as an RX 550 for $85 or RX 560 for $100 or look for a used RX 570

 

[mitch074]

Instead of spending money on ram to improve graphics performance of your APU you could buy a cheap GPU such as an RX 550 for $85 or RX 560 for $100 or look for a used RX 570

No! These cards are not much faster than the integrated GPU and increasing RAM helps with other tasks.
While cards like the rx560 and up would get a higher max frame rate, the lack of dual channel RAM would cause the CPU to be starved for RAM and cause bad fps dips. So, get more RAM first.

 

[Flayed]

No! These cards are not much faster than the integrated GPU and increasing RAM helps with other tasks.
While cards like the rx560 and up would get a higher max frame rate, the lack of dual channel RAM would cause the CPU to be starved for RAM and cause bad fps dips. So, get more RAM first.

Ok the RX 550 isn't much faster than the APU(with fast dual channel ram) but the 560 and 570 will give higher performance

 

[mitch074]

Ok the RX 550 isn't much faster than the APU(with fast dual channel ram) but the 560 and 570 will give higher performance

But with the RAM in single channel it will stutter more - so, RAM first, GPU later if needed.

 

[vov4ik_il]

DDR4-2933 is max the CPU will handle. Faster will not help it.

 

[mitch074]

DDR4-2933 is max the CPU will handle. Faster will not help it.

It's the max SUPPORTED by the vendor. Same as all other Zen+ CPUs - it doesn't prevent them from working at higher frequencies. 3200MHz is the sweet spot; anything faster has diminishing returns, but it also enables lower latencies.