Ryzen 3? Ryzen 5? or Wait for 7nm ryzen

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I am currently running an Fx-8350, 8Gb of 1600 DDR3 and a Gygabite GTX 1050ti. I want to get off the am3 socket and over to am4 but I'm not sure what to do with Ryzen 3000 coming in May or June of this year. The low end 3000 series looks to keep the lithography of the last generation from the rumours I've read. would love to hear other people input.
 
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How is your current performance? If you're happy enough with it, there's no harm in waiting.

On the opposite side of the coin, if you're not happy with your current CPU performance today, then a potentially ~6month wait doesn't seem like it would make a whole bunch of sense.

If you needed something today, I wouldn't disagree with the above, a 2600 is a nice middle-ground, for a phenomenal price.

The rumours of what will be an R3, R5, R7 and (potentially) R9 are at this point exactly that, rumours.... and I wouldn't put too much weight behind that, given how unlikely some of those rumoured products are.
How is your current performance? If you're happy enough with it, there's no harm in waiting.

On the opposite side of the coin, if you're not happy with your current CPU performance today, then a potentially ~6month wait doesn't seem like it would make a whole bunch of sense.

If you needed something today, I wouldn't disagree with the above, a 2600 is a nice middle-ground, for a phenomenal price.

The rumours of what will be an R3, R5, R7 and (potentially) R9 are at this point exactly that, rumours.... and I wouldn't put too much weight behind that, given how unlikely some of those rumoured products are.
 
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The big thing about the "wait and see" attitude is that there is ALWAYS something new coming around the corner.
AMD has promised support for AM4 for a while, into 2020 IIRC? Although choosing a chipset now and then upgrading on the CPU later often is at the cost of some features.

I tend to agree with the above post concerning the go with what you know attitude. The 2xxx R5 chips are offering exceptional perf to price.
 
My system performance at this point is good right now, nothing is bottlenecked, on the other hand, I do get studders when loading areas in games like in Subnautica. other than that I can drive my 1080p panel at 60 no problem.
 
Hi :)

Ryzen 3000 will naturally be faster, but is that worth waiting 5 months, do you really need that extra 15% performance, are you using your PC for heavy workloads, content creation, streaming etc where every bit of added performance is needed or are you a general pc user & gamer - these are all questions that need to be considered.

In the tech world there is always something new around the corner & this never changes. If we all wait for the next best tech we'll never end up actually building a pc & enjoying it 😉

Waiting almost half a year for new tech is a long wait. I would base my decision off of the following:

- do I have a pc that has decent performance on a daily basis & can I perform the tasks desired to a satisfactory level OR is my pc holding me back

- do I have to have the latest & best tech out there to aid in my job, workloads etc OR am I more value orientated

- am I willing to pay a premium for the newest tech, am I happy with the added performance that premium price provides over existing low priced current gen tech

Youre going to see a significant jump in performance upgrading a 6 year old system moving to the current gen Ryzen, DDR4 & new motherboard.

Its pretty hard passing up a Ryzen 2600 going for about $150 nowadays. That CPU packs a punch & a great all rounder. With a decent B450 motherboard of about $100 the 2600 can be overclocked to get another 10% performance improvement.

Hope this helps
 


I think that was really well said and helped a lot so I appreciate that greatly. I think ill start looking at products in this generation and get it all lines up. My only question now is ryzen 3 or ryzen 5. A ryzen 3 2200g is about $130 and the ryzen 5 2600 is about 240 ill put a parts list up of my options
 
I would go for a ryzen 5 2600. For $50 american money more you get a newer 12nm cpu with 2 more cores and 8 more threads than any ryzen 3. The 2200g is a very good budget cpu, however if you can streatch to a 2600 i would. The 4 core ryzen 3 wouldnt be much of an improvement over your old cpu performance wise, however the 2600 would be a major improvement.
 


I appreciate the parts switch but I need a matx board as i already have a case
 
Yes since all of the ram modules are made by the same companies like samsung or micron no matter what ram you buy. You will be fine with either set. I just figured the team ram looks better for not much more. The setup you originally posted will be a good route to go. You could use a 2400g if you wanted to save money.
 


Except for when it isn't.



There's just no guarantee - certainly not at their rated speeds.


Rzyen is much more picky with RAM than a comparable Intel build.
BIOS updates for 1st Gen, and then 2nd Gen definitely improved upon Ryzen's launch state, but unfortunately not improved to the point that "ram is ram".

For guaranteed compatibility/stability, opting for a kit of memory that appears on the boards QVL is a great starting point.
3000MHz+ and dual channel for Ryzen too.

Unfortunately, on the budget end of the spectrum (from a motherboard standpoint), the QVLs are pretty basic with minimal kits tested.
 
I have a 2x4gb g skill ripjaws v 3200mhz kit xmp to 3333mhz on my first gen ryzen. I havent had any trouble with my ram even when xmp on first gen ryzen. 2nd gen should handel it even better. The ram states on it that it intel compatable rather than ryzen ready. Ryzen has matured so you should be fine with most ram and a bios update. You could look for ryzen ready ram to make sure, however most ram should work fine. One youtuber i watch has 16gb of team delta ram working with his ryzen 7 1700.
 
No disrespect @remix, but your personal evidence of one.... and a supporting YTer x1 gives a total sample size of two.
On top of that, specifically 3333MHz (?) on a 1st Gen chip being 100% stable? You got ridiculously lucky, IMO.

Given the huge volumes of issues you can find just searching this very forum alone, there's just no guarantee.

"should handle it even better" is probably accurate..... but 'better' may only mean you can now run a 3200MHz kit at 2800MHz vs 1st Gen when you couldn't do greater than 2666MHz, which kinda defeats the purpose of buying a 3200MHz kit to begin with.
 
I agree i got lucky. 3333mhz is the highest stable clock with stock voltage. I have gotten 3466 with increased voltage. My banner is proof.Most first gen ryzens dont get nearly that high im aware, however most 2nd generations can get to 3000 no problem. I agree that you want 3000mhz plus and dual channel is a must for ryzen, especially for vega equipped chips.