Question Ryzen 3600

[erdeicsalad10]

I have my current setup with an FSP Windale 4 + 1 Arctic F12 v2 on the other side of the cooler.

https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

View: https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

I know that this cooler isn't the best for AMD, because i can only setup it as the airflow: bottom to top, not like RAM to IO, but i had Intel before.
I get around 84-85°C cpu temp while stress testing for like 15min, is that okay?
Got 1 stock case fan + 1 F12 v2 fans in front, and 1 F12 v2 in rear.

PS: room temp around 22-23°C.
PS2.0: i have mx-2 thermal paste on it.

 

[Dooktar]

Most would say 90°C is running too hot, and you're about there.
Something is going wrong with your cooling system.
Don't take this insultingly, but are all your fans blowing the right direction? I had a friend who was choking his case out without realizing it!
What case are you using, if it's easily find able? I'd like to see the airflow.
Also, did you recently apply this thermal paste?

 

[erdeicsalad10]

Zalman Z1 case, and applied the thermal paste when i bought the CPU, about 1,5-2month ago.
Btw if i do stress test, my CPU instantly goes to like 80+°C. Is it normal behavior?

 

[curiousmcgeorge]

I have my current setup with an FSP Windale 4 + 1 Arctic F12 v2 on the other side of the cooler.

https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

View: https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

I know that this cooler isn't the best for AMD, because i can only setup it as the airflow: bottom to top, not like RAM to IO, but i had Intel before.
I get around 84-85°C cpu temp while stress testing for like 15min, is that okay?
Got 1 stock case fan + 1 F12 v2 fans in front, and 1 F12 v2 in rear.

PS: room temp around 22-23°C.
PS2.0: i have mx-2 thermal paste on it.

I have my current setup with an FSP Windale 4 + 1 Arctic F12 v2 on the other side of the cooler.

https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

View: https://imgur.com/a/KTkfe88

I know that this cooler isn't the best for AMD, because i can only setup it as the airflow: bottom to top, not like RAM to IO, but i had Intel before.
I get around 84-85°C cpu temp while stress testing for like 15min, is that okay?
Got 1 stock case fan + 1 F12 v2 fans in front, and 1 F12 v2 in rear.

PS: room temp around 22-23°C.
PS2.0: i have mx-2 thermal paste on it.

Turn off the system, open up the case and turn it on.

Is the CPU fan spinning?

If yes, did you use thermal paste between the CPU and cooler?

If yes, was there a plastic backing on the CPU cooler that had to be removed? (my cooler needed the plastic to be removed).

 

[erdeicsalad10]

Of course i have active spinning fan(s), and thermal paste as i wrote.
"..but i had Intel before."
So I've used this cooler already, why would the plastic hang on it?

 

[Dooktar]

What temps were you getting before you oc'd?

 

[drea.drechsler]

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I get around 84-85°C cpu temp while stress testing for like 15min, is that okay?
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It depends on what you're using to stress test with.. if Prime95 small FFT, for instance, I'd say it's probably good enough. 85C is indeed pretty high, but still well short of the 95C Tjmax for the processor so it's safe and that's all that matters in a stress test that intense.

The bigger question is what do temperatures look like when doing what you normally do, like in an intense game, and how high do you have to run the fans to keep them there. If your temps are in the low 70's max and fan speed is tolerable doing it then you'll be fine.

Also, with Ryzen you set a fan curve to ignore the inevitable temperature spikes at idle and low processing loads. I set a constant fan speed that's barely audible and then starts ramping up once temperature gets in the 65-70C range, for instance.

BTW, don't know much about it but that cooler has only 4 heat pipes and a fairly sparse fin stack so I don't think you can expect a lot of cooling performance from it. And being north-south mounted has more of an effect on cooling of VRM and memory than CPU, but DDR4 is cool running as it is so that's not really a problem.

The bigger problem is that case lacks a top-mounted exhaust so the hot air will be pushed both ways, both to the back to be exhausted and to the front to be pulled back into the GPU and CPU intakes to be re-heated. I'd probably try to rig up a deflector to direct all the air towards the back to be exhausted.

 

[erdeicsalad10]

I using AIDA64 (CPU, FPU, cache) for stress testing.
Well while gaming it's mosly around 68-72°C even with low fan speed(s), cause i have bottleneck from the GPU side.
My VRM and VSOC never hit over 60°C, so i assume that's okay. I have no clue about the RAM modules temps, but i OCd them kinda heavily. The default max XMP profile for this kit is 3200MHz cl16, and i figured to OC it to 3600MHz cl16 on 1.41V, they're Samsung E-die.

I totally agree with your last paragraph, it's bad for the whole system, that deflector solution may help, gotta try, thanks!

 

[erdeicsalad10]

It depends on what you're using to stress test with.. if Prime95 small FFT, for instance, I'd say it's probably good enough. 85C is indeed pretty high, but still well short of the 95C Tjmax for the processor so it's safe and that's all that matters in a stress test that intense.

The bigger question is what do temperatures look like when doing what you normally do, like in an intense game, and how high do you have to run the fans to keep them there. If your temps are in the low 70's max and fan speed is tolerable doing it then you'll be fine.

Also, with Ryzen you set a fan curve to ignore the inevitable temperature spikes at idle and low processing loads. I set a constant fan speed that's barely audible and then starts ramping up once temperature gets in the 65-70C range, for instance.

BTW, don't know much about it but that cooler has only 4 heat pipes and a fairly sparse fin stack so I don't think you can expect a lot of cooling performance from it. And being north-south mounted has more of an effect on cooling of VRM and memory than CPU, but DDR4 is cool running as it is so that's not really a problem.

The bigger problem is that case lacks a top-mounted exhaust so the hot air will be pushed both ways, both to the back to be exhausted and to the front to be pulled back into the GPU and CPU intakes to be re-heated. I'd probably try to rig up a deflector to direct all the air towards the back to be exhausted.

I using AIDA64 (CPU, FPU, cache) for stress testing.
Well while gaming it's mosly around 68-72°C even with low fan speed(s), cause i have bottleneck from the GPU side.
My VRM and VSOC never hit over 60°C, so i assume that's okay. I have no clue about the RAM modules temps, but i OCd them kinda heavily. The default max XMP profile for this kit is 3200MHz cl16, and i figured to OC it to 3600MHz cl16 on 1.41V, they're Samsung E-die.

I totally agree with your last paragraph, it's bad for the whole system, that deflector solution may help, gotta try, thanks!

PS: I did a 10h memtest for the 3600MHz RAM OC, and the result was 0 error.

 

[drea.drechsler]

I using AIDA64 (CPU, FPU, cache) for stress testing.
Well while gaming it's mosly around 68-72°C even with low fan speed(s), cause i have bottleneck from the GPU side.
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Aida64 also uses AVX instructions for FPU testing so if that's the mode you're using when getting those temps I'd say you're just fine and have nothing to worry about.

In high resolution/high refresh rate gaming any GPU shy of a 2080ti will be the bottleneck.