[SOLVED] Ryzen 3600x OC

[roeihahnnoyman]

So ive started to OC my 3600X!

Stock: 3.8GHz on 1.41V - Cinabench scores: Single Core 481, Multi Core 3180. - 75C Max
OC: 4.275GHz on 1.325V - Cinabench scores: Single Core 477, Multi Core 3554. - 65C Max

For pure heavy gaming (1440P ultra with RTX 2080 Super), some light video editing (usually some shadowplay quick exporting).. is the oc YEY or NAY?

 

[RodroX]

Ryzen 3rd gen CPU should be left alone, and let PB and PBO do its thing.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

I agree with RodroX
I had my 3600x oc'd to 4.350gh
On 1 31v
Cb score mc 3944 and sc 509
But went back to Pbo and just letting it do it thing after reading and watch buildzoid's videos on 3000 cpu overclocking.
I don't want to degrade my cpu to a premature death.
Amd really has done 1 hell of a job in taking overclocking the 3000's out of our hands
And is a wait to be seen what the 4000's can do.

 

[RodroX]

My Ryzen 5 3600 if let alone with PB + PBO can do ~3650pts in CR20. If I had a better cooler it probably be higher.

Of course PBO does make my CPU run a bit hot with my budget aftermarket cooling solution.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

Running a h110i with noctua Ippc 3000 rpm version helps my 3600x to cb r20
Mc to 3874 to 3900
Sc was 503 to 509

 

[Phaaze88]

@RodroX @Crosslhs82x2
Ya'll kinda crapped on the manual OC by doing almost nothing... XD

 

[RodroX]

@RodroX @Crosslhs82x2
Ya'll kinda crapped on the manual OC by doing almost nothing... XD

Im one of the early adopters and for me OC with my CPU is not worth it.

The gains are minimum at best, if theres any, and after hours of testing I was not able to get something good enough to improve over what stock setting + PBO can give already. Is a lottery, I guess and I didn't got much to work with on the first place.

Im not stupid, I know there are way better CPUs than mine around, and I know the Ryzen 5 3600 you can buy now are way better than the first batches from 2019, but in summary AMD + Motherboard settings usually do a pretty decent job.

 

[Phaaze88]

Im one of the early adopters and for me OC with my CPU is not worth it.

The gains are minimum at best, if theres any, and after hours of testing I was not able to get something good enough to improve over what stock setting + PBO can give already. Is a lottery, I guess and I didn't got much to work with on the first place.

Im not stupid, I know there are way better CPUs than mine around, and I know the Ryzen 5 3600 you can buy now are way better than the first batches from 2019, but in summary AMD + Motherboard settings usually do a pretty decent job.

I agree with most of what you said.
Quite a few people are missing the fact that manual OC'ing Ryzen 3000 hurts single core performance; there are still apps out there that prefer strong single cores. Let it do it's thing.
A good cooler and fast ram with tighter timings... nothing else needs to be done really.

Now, a problem I do have is with some of these motherboard vendors screwing the end user over by having the mobo defaults not adhere to either Intel or AMD's guidelines in a race to one-up each other...

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

I gave It A good Try But decided Not to Kill my Cpu.
The 2000's were alot more forgiving on the oc's.

Let's not forget about the lack of bios updates in the mean time of the 1 Upping.
Asus has not put out a bios update since the last back in Nov 19. for my Asus Rog Strix X470

 

[Phaaze88]

I gave It A good Try But decided Not to Kill my Cpu.
The 2000's were alot more forgiving on the oc's.

That has to do with the current draw. That's what's been sending these chips to an early grave.
Current ≠ voltage.
When operating normally, these chips regulate the 2 on their own: lighter loads > high voltage, high current. Heavier loads > low voltage, low current.
With manual OC, it doesn't regulate them anymore, thus it is on the user's hands: lighter loads > low voltage, high current. Heavier loads > low voltage, high current.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

That's what I have read and by watching Buildzoid vid Helped me just go back to Pbo and the fact that this room has A/c now to help deal with the higher temps of Pbo and summer.

 

[RodroX]

I agree with most of what you said.
Quite a few people are missing the fact that manual OC'ing Ryzen 3000 hurts single core performance; there are still apps out there that prefer strong single cores. Let it do it's thing.
A good cooler and fast ram with tighter timings... nothing else needs to be done really.

Now, a problem I do have is with some of these motherboard vendors screwing the end user over by having the mobo defaults not adhere to either Intel or AMD's guidelines in a race to one-up each other...

And that is quite troublesome cause then you have lots of people around the world thinking, "OMG my PC is about the explode my CPU is reaching 100°C, OMG!!! What can I do?????"

I really wish motherboard vendors to educate the user a bit instead of trying to impose strange out of the specs settings. A small piece of paper when you open the motherboard box lid explaining this "Boost Magic Thingies" and a small explanation on it, on how to disable if you don't like it. Something that probably could take 5 mins to write and almost zero cost.

Cheers!

PD: I never used and never will use any auto-oc tools motherboards vendors add to thier product. I don't like to mess with stock settings unless Im 100% sure what is been changed. Also I don't like to have a turbo jet noise close to my head, and so I will always look for a CPU with enough performance (that I can pay of course) at a reasonable sound level when its loaded.

 

[Karadjgne]

3600 has some little room to play with if you feel inclined, could always just hit PBO level 1 and be good, but the 3600X is already just a factory OC'd 3600, there's almost no room for manual improvement, just a bunch of ways to jack up the temp for next to no gains. It's a Ryzen, not a 3rd Gen Intel, the days of a 1GHz OC are long gone.

 

[Crosslhs82x2]

Ya I don't like the software Oc's since I learned my leason with Aod, in fact the only thing I use RM for is monitoring.

I just put a 3600 on my son's Msi B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC last night and set the ram and Pbo and going to leave it there.
Have A Great Weekend Guy's!!!!!!!!!!