Ryzen 5 1600 Noob Overclock

[mundo_roses]

Hi guys, I recently upgrade my gear and bought a Ryzen 5 1600 with Wraith Spire Cooler/ AB350M Pro4 ASROCK mobo/ 2x4Gb Kingston HyperX 2400mhz RAM/ 600W Corsair PSU and after reading some overclocking guides and stuff, I decided to tried out for myself. So, I am played safe and started out with 3.9ghz - and auto voltage! Lol.. And It crashed on aida64, of course!

But, after tweaking it around, I got somewhere stable with 3.85ghz - 1.20625v offset - and after 30 minutes or so of burning in aida64, I got maxed out cpu temp of 73-74ºC/ cpu package of 92-94ºC (that last one that's worries me!) - Observation: I'm from Brazil and here it's likes hell hot (30-40ºC).

So, after this previous review, what you guys think?

One last detail: after setting the overclock I played about 20min GTAV and Batman Arkham City, just to sees how it goes! And cpu temp were low (50-54ºC), but it suffered with some couple microstuttering when loading some new regions of the town! And it get's me wondering if this, maybe, was results of low voltage on the cpu or some other stuff. The drivers and bios are fresh (just the nvidia 1070ti I choose to let it 388.84 vulkan driver - I heard that's the best stable driver so far). Thx guys and I hope some feedback from you (sorry for my bad english).

 

[CountMike]

3.9GHz is not some "playing safe", for most chips it's a high end before it needs large jump in voltage. My experience with 1600x was just under 1.4v at that frequency. At 4.05GHz it already asked for 1,5v.

 

[mundo_roses]

3.9GHz is not some "playing safe", for most chips it's a high end before it needs large jump in voltage. My experience with 1600x was just under 1.4v at that frequency. At 4.05GHz it already asked for 1,5v.

Hey, thx for the reply!

I'm know that, I was joking before.. But anyway, yesterday I go back at it and I was able to perfom 3.8ghz - 1.15620v. Temp wasn't much of a difference, about 70-72ºC and package about 88ºC under full load - gaming cpu package temp was about 50-55ºC - so I decided to stick with that and leave at this range! I judged it's better for the long road, right?

I try out some couple other settings trying stabilizing at 3.9ghz, but no manner what voltage (interval of 1.20v and so) it wasn't getting stable! I think I found that "voltage wall" people talked about it!? And hey, that microstuttering I was getting it's gone! After some tweaking on nvidia control panel, I think that it was responsable for the "maximum pre-rendered frames". It was selected "use 3d application setting", so I selected "1" and did the trick! That's all! Well, do you have any suggestions about the overclock? Thx again!

 

[CountMike]

AMD's recommendation is max 1.425v and 75c so with better cooler you have ways to go, just sayin'.

 

[gm-madi]

i spend 4 hours testing 3.9-3.95 with different Voltage:
- 3.925 @ 1.325v failed
- 3.925 @ 1.3375 Solid 72°c max Temp. Screen: https://imgur.com/jMv3xC7
- 3.900 @ 1.3250 Solid 72°c max Temp Screen: https://imgur.com/R46hOTk
- 3.950 @ 1.375 or 1.350v should be fine.
**** all tests are done with AIDA64 ( 30 mins is enough i guess ) ***

to answer you, yes am not going to push it to the max and waste my CPU lifetime for just 100Mhz, just making some tests and i think i am happy with 3.900 @ 1.325v with 72° but i just play some games which are 70% CPU usage max at 65°c. i will lower to 3.8 / 3.85 @ 1.3v / 1.3125 if i get Temp problems or summer comes out because i live in hot country. or i will add more fans and test it.

for conclusion i think ryzen CPUs are very strong and runs safe at 3.9Ghz with 1.3250v at least this is what i have, compaired to what i see in Forums or Youtube they push to 1.4v for 3.9Ghz.

 

[CountMike]

Yes. looks like you are doing fine at 3.9 considering it's not X model which are a tad better binned and under OEM cooler. I kept mine at 4GHz but it was under water cooler and never vent over 60c. It's actually constant overheating that may shorten processors life, voltage is just a cause of heating.
Good luck.

 

[mundo_roses]

i spend 4 hours testing 3.9-3.95 with different Voltage:
- 3.925 @ 1.325v failed
- 3.925 @ 1.3375 Solid 72°c max Temp. Screen: https://imgur.com/jMv3xC7
- 3.900 @ 1.3250 Solid 72°c max Temp Screen: https://imgur.com/R46hOTk
- 3.950 @ 1.375 or 1.350v should be fine.
**** all tests are done with AIDA64 ( 30 mins is enough i guess ) ***

to answer you, yes am not going to push it to the max and waste my CPU lifetime for just 100Mhz, just making some tests and i think i am happy with 3.900 @ 1.325v with 72° but i just play some games which are 70% CPU usage max at 65°c. i will lower to 3.8 / 3.85 @ 1.3v / 1.3125 if i get Temp problems or summer comes out because i live in hot country. or i will add more fans and test it.

for conclusion i think ryzen CPUs are very strong and runs safe at 3.9Ghz with 1.3250v at least this is what i have, compaired to what i see in Forums or Youtube they push to 1.4v for 3.9Ghz.

Hold on! It's just my gear or yours cpu temp are measure differente then mine? I mean, looking at yours "printscreen" I noticed that your cpu temps shown on the hwmonitor and the aida64 are the same. Mine seems different or just separates it: the cpu temp on the aida64 refers to cpu temp not the cpu package temp like yours seems to be! I don't know if am making any sense but definely my cpu temp on aida64 it's cpu temp on hwinfo, not cpu package (shown on ryzen master per example). Only if that's 20ºC over temp that I read amd stated! I'm confused.. lol.. But that's all. Nothing to worry about! I just noticed the difference!

 

[CountMike]

Hey guys, use HW Info for best readings on Ryzen.

 

[gm-madi]

i spend 4 hours testing 3.9-3.95 with different Voltage:
- 3.925 @ 1.325v failed
- 3.925 @ 1.3375 Solid 72°c max Temp. Screen: https://imgur.com/jMv3xC7
- 3.900 @ 1.3250 Solid 72°c max Temp Screen: https://imgur.com/R46hOTk
- 3.950 @ 1.375 or 1.350v should be fine.
**** all tests are done with AIDA64 ( 30 mins is enough i guess ) ***

to answer you, yes am not going to push it to the max and waste my CPU lifetime for just 100Mhz, just making some tests and i think i am happy with 3.900 @ 1.325v with 72° but i just play some games which are 70% CPU usage max at 65°c. i will lower to 3.8 / 3.85 @ 1.3v / 1.3125 if i get Temp problems or summer comes out because i live in hot country. or i will add more fans and test it.

for conclusion i think ryzen CPUs are very strong and runs safe at 3.9Ghz with 1.3250v at least this is what i have, compaired to what i see in Forums or Youtube they push to 1.4v for 3.9Ghz.

Hold on! It's just my gear or yours cpu temp are measure differente then mine? I mean, looking at yours "printscreen" I noticed that your cpu temps shown on the hwmonitor and the aida64 are the same. Mine seems different or just separates it: the cpu temp on the aida64 refers to cpu temp not the cpu package temp like yours seems to be! I don't know if am making any sense but definely my cpu temp on aida64 it's cpu temp on hwinfo, not cpu package (shown on ryzen master per example). Only if that's 20ºC over temp that I read amd stated! I'm confused.. lol.. But that's all. Nothing to worry about! I just noticed the difference!

open HWmonitor, on top you see "temperature" you check cpu temp , well thats wrong info.
to check the real cpu temp you need to put eyes on 'cpu package'.
for me 'cpu package' on HWmonitor = CPU temp on RyzenMaster = AIDA64. they are all he same.

 

[mundo_roses]

AMD's recommendation is max 1.425v and 75c so with better cooler you have ways to go, just sayin'.

For sure! I have a H80i that I used on my i5 4690 non k and worked pretty great! But since I was able to damaged the pin's controller fans and I haven't am4 bracket, I have to stick with wraith cooler (not that bad in my opinion). I message the corsair support and I'm been waiting for an answer! Let's see what's goin' to happen.

 

[mundo_roses]

i spend 4 hours testing 3.9-3.95 with different Voltage:
- 3.925 @ 1.325v failed
- 3.925 @ 1.3375 Solid 72°c max Temp. Screen: https://imgur.com/jMv3xC7
- 3.900 @ 1.3250 Solid 72°c max Temp Screen: https://imgur.com/R46hOTk
- 3.950 @ 1.375 or 1.350v should be fine.
**** all tests are done with AIDA64 ( 30 mins is enough i guess ) ***

to answer you, yes am not going to push it to the max and waste my CPU lifetime for just 100Mhz, just making some tests and i think i am happy with 3.900 @ 1.325v with 72° but i just play some games which are 70% CPU usage max at 65°c. i will lower to 3.8 / 3.85 @ 1.3v / 1.3125 if i get Temp problems or summer comes out because i live in hot country. or i will add more fans and test it.

for conclusion i think ryzen CPUs are very strong and runs safe at 3.9Ghz with 1.3250v at least this is what i have, compaired to what i see in Forums or Youtube they push to 1.4v for 3.9Ghz.

Hold on! It's just my gear or yours cpu temp are measure differente then mine? I mean, looking at yours "printscreen" I noticed that your cpu temps shown on the hwmonitor and the aida64 are the same. Mine seems different or just separates it: the cpu temp on the aida64 refers to cpu temp not the cpu package temp like yours seems to be! I don't know if am making any sense but definely my cpu temp on aida64 it's cpu temp on hwinfo, not cpu package (shown on ryzen master per example). Only if that's 20ºC over temp that I read amd stated! I'm confused.. lol.. But that's all. Nothing to worry about! I just noticed the difference!

open HWmonitor, on top you see "temperature" you check cpu temp , well thats wrong info.
to check the real cpu temp you need to put eyes on 'cpu package'.
for me 'cpu package' on HWmonitor = CPU temp on RyzenMaster = AIDA64. they are all he same.

Ohh.. I see! That's what thought! Thx again!

 

[CountMike]

HW Info gives you both plus more detailed an timely voltages.

 

[miftamail.huda]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

 

[CountMike]

Try with LLC, first at maximum and than lover it and stop at lowest setting you have good stability. That should raise the voltage only when it's need by couple percent. In normal use that would raise voltage for very short time and not raise temperatures.

 

[mundo_roses]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

Hey,

I'm not an expert, but for what I understood: you get stable 3.85 at 1.30v - so, if you use lower voltage like u did, it will crash (as reported). So, maybe if want to get lower voltages you've to use lower clocks. What you can do too, is to try out some highers clocks in that 1.30v range (it isn't that high, really).

In my case, my mobo don't allow LLC control, but I have some news! I installed my old WC H80i on my ryzen and then I get really low temps, like 55°C in stress-tests (ambient temp about 30-35°C)! So, after some tweaks it was stable at 4.00ghz at 1.23125v! And hey, that stuttering that I was talking about earlier on, it's GONE! I upgraded my RAM to 16GB 3000mhz, reinstalled my OS, try out everything, but nothing worked!
After some frustrating days searching for an answer, really, days! I FOUNDED IT! Reinstalled the OS to windows 10 build 1607 (creators edition sucks!), update some important things and blocked the OS upgrades! That was it and finally I can play without that f*** stuttering!

Anyway, back to overclock: what I can tell is that every chip is different! Some get highers clocks with lower voltages others get stuck at lower clocks with higher voltages and vice-versa! In your case, I think you can get highers clocks with that 1.30v. If is not possible, then you have use more voltage - like AMD report, ryzen max out voltage it's about 1.40v (just avoid high temps)! If even that not work, I'm sorry but you get stuck (hit voltage wall)! Maybe with better cpu cooler you can get away with that! But remember, 3.85ghz it's big man!

I hope I was able to help! See ya!

 

[miftamail.huda]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

Hey,

I'm not an expert, but for what I understood: you get stable 3.85 at 1.30v - so, if you use lower voltage like u did, it will crash (as reported). So, maybe if want to get lower voltages you've to use lower clocks. What you can do too, is to try out some highers clocks in that 1.30v range (it isn't that high, really).

In my case, my mobo don't allow LLC control, but I have some news! I installed my old WC H80i on my ryzen and then I get really low temps, like 55°C in stress-tests (ambient temp about 30-35°C)! So, after some tweaks it was stable at 4.00ghz at 1.23125v! And hey, that stuttering that I was talking about earlier on, it's GONE! I upgraded my RAM to 16GB 3000mhz, reinstalled my OS, try out everything, but nothing worked!
After some frustrating days searching for an answer, really, days! I FOUNDED IT! Reinstalled the OS to windows 10 build 1607 (creators edition sucks!), update some important things and blocked the OS upgrades! That was it and finally I can play without that f*** stuttering!

Anyway, back to overclock: what I can tell is that every chip is different! Some get highers clocks with lower voltages others get stuck at lower clocks with higher voltages and vice-versa! In your case, I think you can get highers clocks with that 1.30v. If is not possible, then you have use more voltage - like AMD report, ryzen max out voltage it's about 1.40v (just avoid high temps)! If even that not work, I'm sorry but you get stuck (hit voltage wall)! Maybe with better cpu cooler you can get away with that! But remember, 3.85ghz it's big man!

I hope I was able to help! See ya!

thanks for your explanation, understand your point

in my case
1.2875 to 1.3 is only 0.0125 different, very tiny margin, from crash to stable
i just think that, i might be on near unstable point
so, instead of increasing voltage, i just did dial back my clock to 3.8 , with the same voltage (1.3)
50Mhz should be enough for spare to my stable point right?

do you understand my point? what you think?

 

[mundo_roses]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

Hey,

I'm not an expert, but for what I understood: you get stable 3.85 at 1.30v - so, if you use lower voltage like u did, it will crash (as reported). So, maybe if want to get lower voltages you've to use lower clocks. What you can do too, is to try out some highers clocks in that 1.30v range (it isn't that high, really).

In my case, my mobo don't allow LLC control, but I have some news! I installed my old WC H80i on my ryzen and then I get really low temps, like 55°C in stress-tests (ambient temp about 30-35°C)! So, after some tweaks it was stable at 4.00ghz at 1.23125v! And hey, that stuttering that I was talking about earlier on, it's GONE! I upgraded my RAM to 16GB 3000mhz, reinstalled my OS, try out everything, but nothing worked!
After some frustrating days searching for an answer, really, days! I FOUNDED IT! Reinstalled the OS to windows 10 build 1607 (creators edition sucks!), update some important things and blocked the OS upgrades! That was it and finally I can play without that f*** stuttering!

Anyway, back to overclock: what I can tell is that every chip is different! Some get highers clocks with lower voltages others get stuck at lower clocks with higher voltages and vice-versa! In your case, I think you can get highers clocks with that 1.30v. If is not possible, then you have use more voltage - like AMD report, ryzen max out voltage it's about 1.40v (just avoid high temps)! If even that not work, I'm sorry but you get stuck (hit voltage wall)! Maybe with better cpu cooler you can get away with that! But remember, 3.85ghz it's big man!

I hope I was able to help! See ya!

thanks for your explanation, understand your point

in my case
1.2875 to 1.3 is only 0.0125 different, very tiny margin, from crash to stable
i just think that, i might be on near unstable point
so, instead of increasing voltage, i just did dial back my clock to 3.8 , with the same voltage (1.3)
50Mhz should be enough for spare to my stable point right?

do you understand my point? what you think?

Yeap, I do.

I believe so! Maybe that 50mhz should be enough to get your overclock stable! It's hard to say!
Try out, do some new tests and you will see! If crash again, maybe you have to lower even more the clocks.
Like friend said: maybe LLC control (if possible to set on yours mobo) is the answer!

 

[miftamail.huda]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

Hey,

I'm not an expert, but for what I understood: you get stable 3.85 at 1.30v - so, if you use lower voltage like u did, it will crash (as reported). So, maybe if want to get lower voltages you've to use lower clocks. What you can do too, is to try out some highers clocks in that 1.30v range (it isn't that high, really).

In my case, my mobo don't allow LLC control, but I have some news! I installed my old WC H80i on my ryzen and then I get really low temps, like 55°C in stress-tests (ambient temp about 30-35°C)! So, after some tweaks it was stable at 4.00ghz at 1.23125v! And hey, that stuttering that I was talking about earlier on, it's GONE! I upgraded my RAM to 16GB 3000mhz, reinstalled my OS, try out everything, but nothing worked!
After some frustrating days searching for an answer, really, days! I FOUNDED IT! Reinstalled the OS to windows 10 build 1607 (creators edition sucks!), update some important things and blocked the OS upgrades! That was it and finally I can play without that f*** stuttering!

Anyway, back to overclock: what I can tell is that every chip is different! Some get highers clocks with lower voltages others get stuck at lower clocks with higher voltages and vice-versa! In your case, I think you can get highers clocks with that 1.30v. If is not possible, then you have use more voltage - like AMD report, ryzen max out voltage it's about 1.40v (just avoid high temps)! If even that not work, I'm sorry but you get stuck (hit voltage wall)! Maybe with better cpu cooler you can get away with that! But remember, 3.85ghz it's big man!

I hope I was able to help! See ya!

thanks for your explanation, understand your point

in my case
1.2875 to 1.3 is only 0.0125 different, very tiny margin, from crash to stable
i just think that, i might be on near unstable point
so, instead of increasing voltage, i just did dial back my clock to 3.8 , with the same voltage (1.3)
50Mhz should be enough for spare to my stable point right?

do you understand my point? what you think?

Yeap, I do.

I believe so! Maybe that 50mhz should be enough to get your overclock stable! It's hard to say!
Try out, do some new tests and you will see! If crash again, maybe you have to lower even more the clocks.
Like friend said: maybe LLC control (if possible to set on yours mobo) is the answer!

it is already stable at 1.3v 3.85Ghz
i just want to have some spare volt, thus minimize any possible fail on future and long day usage
and yea im testing right now
OCCT Large file 1 hours pass
OCCT Small file 1 hours pass
Realbench 1 hours pass
Prime95 blend 1 hours pass
Prime95 small on progress

 

[CountMike]

By the time you finish all those tests, you'll shorten it's life by half.

 

[miftamail.huda]

By the time you finish all those tests, you'll shorten it's life by half.

am i doing wrong?
people out there do 24 hours

i only do one each test
total 5 hours

i think no more than 12 hours test since i have this computer

 

[CountMike]

The best test is to run your most demanding SW. There are many examples when everything works in tests but get BSODs or problems using some crap SW. There are not many programs that can keep system at full usage for so long.

 

[miftamail.huda]

The best test is to run your most demanding SW. There are many examples when everything works in tests but get BSODs or problems using some crap SW. There are not many programs that can keep system at full usage for so long.

okay, thanks for your advise
what is done is done
i just finish the test
no more tweak and test CPU untill facing an error

next to do is overcloking my RAM

 

[mundo_roses]

Hi,

I just testing my overclock R5 1600 3.85 GHz @1.3V with OCCT large data set for 3 hours, running good
however it was crash on @1.2875V (only small different 0.0125V)

my question :
Do i need to add some voltage or reduce some MHz to have some some headroom? i yes, how much?

thanks

Hey,

I'm not an expert, but for what I understood: you get stable 3.85 at 1.30v - so, if you use lower voltage like u did, it will crash (as reported). So, maybe if want to get lower voltages you've to use lower clocks. What you can do too, is to try out some highers clocks in that 1.30v range (it isn't that high, really).

In my case, my mobo don't allow LLC control, but I have some news! I installed my old WC H80i on my ryzen and then I get really low temps, like 55°C in stress-tests (ambient temp about 30-35°C)! So, after some tweaks it was stable at 4.00ghz at 1.23125v! And hey, that stuttering that I was talking about earlier on, it's GONE! I upgraded my RAM to 16GB 3000mhz, reinstalled my OS, try out everything, but nothing worked!
After some frustrating days searching for an answer, really, days! I FOUNDED IT! Reinstalled the OS to windows 10 build 1607 (creators edition sucks!), update some important things and blocked the OS upgrades! That was it and finally I can play without that f*** stuttering!

Anyway, back to overclock: what I can tell is that every chip is different! Some get highers clocks with lower voltages others get stuck at lower clocks with higher voltages and vice-versa! In your case, I think you can get highers clocks with that 1.30v. If is not possible, then you have use more voltage - like AMD report, ryzen max out voltage it's about 1.40v (just avoid high temps)! If even that not work, I'm sorry but you get stuck (hit voltage wall)! Maybe with better cpu cooler you can get away with that! But remember, 3.85ghz it's big man!

I hope I was able to help! See ya!

thanks for your explanation, understand your point

in my case
1.2875 to 1.3 is only 0.0125 different, very tiny margin, from crash to stable
i just think that, i might be on near unstable point
so, instead of increasing voltage, i just did dial back my clock to 3.8 , with the same voltage (1.3)
50Mhz should be enough for spare to my stable point right?

do you understand my point? what you think?

Yeap, I do.

I believe so! Maybe that 50mhz should be enough to get your overclock stable! It's hard to say!
Try out, do some new tests and you will see! If crash again, maybe you have to lower even more the clocks.
Like friend said: maybe LLC control (if possible to set on yours mobo) is the answer!

it is already stable at 1.3v 3.85Ghz
i just want to have some spare volt, thus minimize any possible fail on future and long day usage
and yea im testing right now
OCCT Large file 1 hours pass
OCCT Small file 1 hours pass
Realbench 1 hours pass
Prime95 blend 1 hours pass
Prime95 small on progress

Right!
By "overclock stable" I meant about reducing that 50mhz, gaining thar spare volt and stabilizing at 1.2875v.
It is what your seeking for, right? Reduce voltage and achieve better/ higher clock?

But anyway, don't worry so much about "minimize any possible fail on future and long day usage" because you still have some voltage room! And the current voltage that you're using it's fine (really, just seek out AMD reports about it), but obviously watch out the high temps!

 

[CountMike]

Yes, RAM has a lot of influence on Ryzen's performance, not only frequency but also dual channel and latency. I had better results with 2933MHz, Cl12 than 3200 Cl16.

 

[mundo_roses]

By the time you finish all those tests, you'll shorten it's life by half.

I have to disagree. Like I said I'm not a expert, but for what I learn reading forum, watching guides and doing some tests, if you do some "common sense" overclock respecting voltages and temps, you don't have to worry so much!
But of course, if you go crazy probably it will end up with some fried chip...