[SOLVED] Ryzen 5 3600 overclock help!

[captxn]

Hi, I'm new to pc building. Ive got a ryzen 5 3600 and a x570 asrock phantom gaming 4. I went to the bios and changed 3600mhz to 4000mhz and 1.2v. Is that ok?
The reason i did this was because my idle temps are always high and my voltage was on 1.4-1.5. I ran cinebench and got a good score. I havent experienced any crashes so far.
Is this ok? I dont really care about going any higher since all I do is game!

 

[norcalsc]

you're probably better off going back to BIOS and returning all settings back to default. 3rd gen Ryzen chips don't benefit from manual OC as much as previous generations and you can, in fact, lose performance by doing so. all you really want to do si enable XMP for your RAM and carry on...

you can extract a bit more performance by manually tuning RAM, but that's a topic for another day as it's a bit more advanced. good Luck

 

[TechyInAZ]

you can already hit 3.96ghz at stock voltage. So there really is no point in manually overclocking/undervolting, you loose your 4.15ghz single core boost too.

I highly recommend just using a offset voltage if you want to maintain 4ghz at super low voltages. That way the silicon health monitoring tech and precision boost algorithms stay online, and don't get manually disabled.

 

[captxn]

you can already hit 3.96ghz at stock voltage. So there really is no point in manually overclocking/undervolting, you loose your 4.15ghz single core boost too.

I highly recommend just using a offset voltage if you want to maintain 4ghz at super low voltages. That way the silicon health monitoring tech and precision boost algorithms stay online, and don't get manually disabled.

The reason I did it was to lower my voltage. Im getting high idle temps of around 50. I don' really care about losing little performance as all I do is is browse and game. I set it to 4000mhz at 1.25v. Im getting better idle temps of around 35-40. Everything else runs fine. Im just concerned if I have to change anything else in the BIOS? Thanks for getting back to me!

 

[TechyInAZ]

No problem, and 50C idle is fine, as long as your load temps are not super hot that's all that matters.

Usually high idle temps mean your load temps are going to be high, but if your load temps are normal then there's nothing to worry about. (that's why people make such a big fuss about idle temps.)

 

[captxn]

No problem, and 50C idle is fine, as long as your load temps are not super hot that's all that matters.

Usually high idle temps mean your load temps are going to be high, but if your load temps are normal then there's nothing to worry about. (that's why people make such a big fuss about idle temps.)

So everything is fine right, I dont need to change any other settings apart from the frequency and voltage

 

[drea.drechsler]

So everything is fine right, I dont need to change any other settings apart from the frequency and voltage

You should leave both those in AUTO if you want to retain warranty. Taking voltage, in particular, off of AUTO can be dangerous if not done very carefully. Once you've fixed the voltage by doing that it can't be varied by the processors boost algorithm to protect it when it starts getting hot under extremely heavy loads. Alternatively, if you set it to a low voltage in a misguided effort to protect it then it will never perform as designed.

Voltage spikes up to 1.5V is normal and expected with Ryzen 3000 and AMD has said this several times. It does that when boosting from idle under light bursty loads and is perfectly safe. That also is the reason for the low energy temperature spikes you might see which aren't troublesome either. You should look at an average temperature, something AMD's Ryzenmaster utility reports. Also with HWInfo64...there's a Temperature Die (Average) reading.

 

[JerT]

If you have any other questions related to this believe i know how you feel i was very confused too and im glad @drea.drechsler was very patient with me and helped me across multiple days when i was trying to figure out how 3rd gen ryzen works please see this https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...l-my-hair-with-this-cpu-ryzen-5-3600.3590099/ big thanks again drea

 

[captxn]

You should leave both those in AUTO if you want to retain warranty. Taking voltage, in particular, off of AUTO can be dangerous if not done very carefully. Once you've fixed the voltage by doing that it can't be varied by the processors boost algorithm to protect it when it starts getting hot under extremely heavy loads. Alternatively, if you set it to a low voltage in a misguided effort to protect it then it will never perform as designed.

Voltage spikes up to 1.5V is normal and expected with Ryzen 3000 and AMD has said this several times. It does that when boosting from idle under light bursty loads and is perfectly safe. That also is the reason for the low energy temperature spikes you might see which aren't troublesome either. You should look at an average temperature, something AMD's Ryzenmaster utility reports. Also with HWInfo64...there's a Temperature Die (Average) reading.

What if i fix it at 4000mhz at 1.275 voltage. So far ive been using it and no BSOD and it passes cinebench and prime 95 with low temps. All cores working

 

[JerT]

What if i fix it at 4000mhz at 1.275 voltage. So far ive been using it and no BSOD and it passes cinebench and prime 95 with low temps. All cores working

Honestly from what ive gathered from multiple people its not recommended nor necessary to manually up or downclock the cpu let it do its own thing.

 

[drea.drechsler]

What if i fix it at 4000mhz at 1.275 voltage. So far ive been using it and no BSOD and it passes cinebench and prime 95 with low temps. All cores working

It 'passes' but it's probably not performing as well as it could. This is especially true for lightly threaded tasks like games where it's most needed. Either that, or it's also likely to be borderline unstable under a heavier load. And quite possibly both!