Question Ryzen 5 5600 is overheating and i have no clue what the problem is ?

[thanosfar]

My pc components
Cpu: amd ryzen 5 5600
4 Fans: Artic P12 PWM case fan 120mm
Case:LC-Power Gaming 988 Midi Tower
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite AX V2(rev 1.0)
SATA: Patriot P210 SSD 2TB 2.5 SATA III
power supply:Corsair RM series RM750 White 750W Full modular 80 plus gold
Gpu:amd Radeon RX 6650 XT

My cpu in stand-by has 50 Celcius when i start playing games my gpu has normal temperatures but my cpu burns to death going 80++ in mutipayer games and in solo like ac valhalla etc. maybe 90-92 maximum. I though it was my old fans and i bought those i mentin but nothing changed. I need help to troubleshoot the problem is it my case? is it my motherboard? or the cpu?

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[kira-faye]

What heatsink are you using? Case fans are important, sure, air has to get in and out of the box, but the CPU is still going to run hot if you're using an inefficient or undersized heatsink. If you've been using this setup for a while and this only recently started happening, did anything notably change? It may be that the thermal paste used between the heatsink and CPU has just gotten old and needs a refresh.

If your current heatsink is on the smaller side I strongly recommend picking up the Thermalright Phantom Spirit - Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB CPU Air Cooler, 7 Heatpipes CPU Cooler,Dual 120mm PWM Fan, for AMD AM4 AM5/Intel 1700/1150/1151/1200 https://a.co/d/5ddI2Id as it is extremely capable and a great value at $36.

 

[thanosfar]

What heatsink are you using? Case fans are important, sure, air has to get in and out of the box, but the CPU is still going to run hot if you're using an inefficient or undersized heatsink. If you've been using this setup for a while and this only recently started happening, did anything notably change? It may be that the thermal paste used between the heatsink and CPU has just gotten old and needs a refresh.

If your current heatsink is on the smaller side I strongly recommend picking up the Thermalright Phantom Spirit - Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB CPU Air Cooler, 7 Heatpipes CPU Cooler,Dual 120mm PWM Fan, for AMD AM4 AM5/Intel 1700/1150/1151/1200 https://a.co/d/5ddI2Id as it is extremely capable and a great value at $36.

i have this setup for 9 months and since day one i have those problems all parts brand new. Heatsink is the deafault of the cpu also i have changed thermalpaste although i have the cheaper thermal paste. I searched thje net some people have problem with this case and some other with my motherboard i dont know what to do!

 

[kira-faye]

i have this setup for 9 months and since day one i have those problems all parts brand new. Heatsink is the deafault of the cpu also i have changed thermalpaste although i have the cheaper thermal paste.

Get the Thermalright, problem solved.

 

[thanosfar]

Shouldnt i first check if the others cause the problems?

 

[thanosfar]

Get the Thermalright, problem solved.

is this good ?Thermalright True Spirit 120 Direct CPU Cooling Fan for 1366/2011/775/115x Socket​

 

[kira-faye]

The TRUE is an ancient design, great in its day but not ideal with modern processors. There may be a kit available to convert it, but it doesn't even have an AM4 mount out of the box.

Are you in the US? If so, I already linked you a great inexpensive option. If not, look for for the Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin (slightly order design but still good).

 

[thanosfar]

The TRUE is an ancient design, great in its day but not ideal with modern processors. There may be a kit available to convert it, but it doesn't even have an AM4 mount out of the box.

Are you in the US? If so, I already linked you a great inexpensive option. If not, look for for the Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin (slightly order design but still good).

i am in europe

 

[thanosfar]

The TRUE is an ancient design, great in its day but not ideal with modern processors. There may be a kit available to convert it, but it doesn't even have an AM4 mount out of the box.

Are you in the US? If so, I already linked you a great inexpensive option. If not, look for for the Phantom Spirit or Peerless Assassin (slightly order design but still good).

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 CPU Cooling Fan for AM4/1200/115x/1700 Socket what about this

 

[Unolocogringo]

You have a couple things going on.
Your case has bad front airflow.
The plexiglass front panel restricts air flow into the case.
The stock cooler is just adequate for a case with good airflow.

The 212 while a good cheap cooler for older processors is not great for newer processors.
Older processors had the cpus centered under the heat spreader. All heatpipes were close to the die.
Newer CPUs have the CPU die offset to the side so only 2 of the heatpipes are directly above the compute die on the 212.
It will be a little better than the stock 5600 cooler but not a major difference except in noise.

 

[thanosfar]

You have a couple things going on.
Your case has bad front airflow.
The plexiglass front panel restricts air flow into the case.
The stock cooler is just adequate for a case with good airflow.

The 212 while a good cheap cooler for older processors is not great for newer processors.
Older processors had the cpus centered under the heat spreader. All heatpipes were close to the die.
Newer CPUs have the CPU die offset to the side so only 2 of the heatpipes are directly above the compute die on the 212.
It will be a little better than the stock 5600 cooler but not a major difference except in noise.

So should i go for a new case?

 

[boju]

So should i go for a new case?

Yes

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[thanosfar]

Yes

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AG620 - DeepCool

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i want something around 100 euro

 

[boju]

100 for case and cooler? How much does both of what i suggested come to? You won't be disappointed btw. That case, i have three of them i like it so much. The cooler rivals Noctua D15s and being cheaper.

 

[thanosfar]

100 for case and cooler? How much does both of what i suggested come to? You won't be disappointed btw. That case, i have three of them i like it so much. The cooler rivals Noctua D15s and being cheaper.

u suggest me buy and a case and a cooler?i though buying a case would solve it. Those coolers are pretty good do i really need them for a normal functioning pc or for overclock

 

[Unolocogringo]

A new case will bring down temperatures for gaming.
BUT under a heavy load the processor will automatically boost until it reaches a power or temperature limit.

The stock cooler will always reach a temperature limit, before a power limit. Which means it reduces speed to produce less heat to stay under the temp limit.
The 212 will also reach a temp limit before reaching a power limit. Although a little higher clock speed will be achieved for a while then slowly drop. I have tried a 212/evo on a 3600 and a 5600x so this is from experience. They do not cool well on the offset CPU die. Better than stock for most games that do not use all cores/threads fully.

Intel and AMD are using this approach with almost all new CPUs so heatsink makers have to adapt also.
It all depends on what you want to achieve.

 

[thanosfar]

A new case will bring down temperatures for gaming.
BUT under a heavy load the processor will automatically boost until it reaches a power or temperature limit.

The stock cooler will always reach a temperature limit, before a power limit. Which means it reduces speed to produce less heat to stay under the temp limit.
The 212 will also reach a temp limit before reaching a power limit. Although a little higher clock speed will be achieved for a while then slowly drop. I have tried a 212/evo on a 3600 and a 5600x so this is from experience. They do not cool well on the offset CPU die. Better than stock for most games that do not use all cores/threads fully.

Intel and AMD are using this approach with almost all new CPUs so heatsink makers have to adapt also.
It all depends on what you want to achieve.

Since the problem is either the cpu cooler or the case airflow,could it be that is possibly better to just get AIO liquid cpu cooler?

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Or you could pick up one of these if your case has the clearance. That should hold it for a while. Have one sitting at home that will go on my 12600kf

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[Phaaze88]

Since the problem is either the cpu cooler or the case airflow,could it be that is possibly better to just get AIO liquid cpu cooler?

There are 2~3 issues.
1)The boxed cooler is a type of air cooler called a downdraft. The fan draws air in the form of a cone and blows it down through the heatsink to cool it, as well as the mobo. Tower air coolers are basically front to back.
2)Folks wanted to be able to look inside their PCs. So what did case manufacturers do in response? We now have fewer and fewer cases with side panel ventilation, which was the only direct source of cooler room air to the downdraft cooler.
3)Folks also wanted cooler and quieter gpu cooler options over those blower models. The response? Most gpu coolers now dump their waste heat inside the PC, yielding higher case ambient over time Vs a blower. That makes air coolers and top mounted AIOs run warmer.

Downdrafts can't really hang with those 2 trends.
Looking at your case, I'd imagine there isn't much air moving; the cpu and gpu are what I'd consider low power.
My 2 cents goes to replacing the case first and foremost, then a tower air cooler or AIO later, since budget seems to be tight.
I guess you COULD keep the current case and brute force lower cpu temperatures with an AIO instead... but you can only go so far on that method.