[SOLVED] Ryzen 5 5600x

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Hello guys,

lately im thinking to update my Ryzen 5 1600 with a Ryzen 5 5600x to get more fps in Games like Valorant and CS. Is it still worth to go with the ryzen 5 5600x or should i wait for a newer generation?
 
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5600X is marginally better in games than a 10th gen chip. i7-10700k has more processing cores and integrated graphics, so has that going for it. i7-11700k is pretty close to matching the 5600X/5800X in games. i9-11900k isn't really worth it also being an 8-core. If you want more performance from Intel, best to go back to the i9-10850k.

Generally the first generation of a new DDR is slower than the fastest of the previous generation. They are also talking about significant cooling requirements (power delivery has moved to the memory sticks for DDR5) Again you would be waiting a while. Intel is likely to have DDR5 mobile processors out towards the end of the year. Desktop, might be early/mid next year. AMD still firm on 2022, but I would...
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Would be a pretty huge performance increase now. Prices for Ryzen CPUs and Motherboards is pretty constant. You would be waiting probably towards the end of 2022 for something new from AMD. (Though there is likely to be a sub-release of Ryzen 5000 series with layered cache)
 
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Is the i7 10700k better?
And i heard these are the last CPUs with DDR4? So is it worth to wait for DDR5? Because with the ryzen 5 5600x i need respectively i want new Ram(2666 atm to 3600 CL 16).

@eszed556 Im sitting on my old juicy ass gtx970. But i mainly play CS, Valorant and some LoL. No real games which need high end GPUs. Trying to get one cheap but i mean prices are fcked.
 
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5600X is marginally better in games than a 10th gen chip. i7-10700k has more processing cores and integrated graphics, so has that going for it. i7-11700k is pretty close to matching the 5600X/5800X in games. i9-11900k isn't really worth it also being an 8-core. If you want more performance from Intel, best to go back to the i9-10850k.

Generally the first generation of a new DDR is slower than the fastest of the previous generation. They are also talking about significant cooling requirements (power delivery has moved to the memory sticks for DDR5) Again you would be waiting a while. Intel is likely to have DDR5 mobile processors out towards the end of the year. Desktop, might be early/mid next year. AMD still firm on 2022, but I would guess later in the year for Zen 4 products. Given their chiplet design, no real reason mobile and desktop can't launch at the same time.

Both are new sockets, so cooling will not be compatible going forward, possibly new mount kits from some vendors.

I don't think it is worth waiting. In lighter titles you can get a lot of FPS today. We also don't know what availability and pricing will be like at launch for DDR5 systems. The memory should be more expensive, and given trends, everything else will be too.
 
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The 10700k is barely better because of higher clock speeds and more cores, but if those are the only games you plan on playing the 5600x will be a better choice.

Which board do you have? If it can support the 5600x with a BIOS update I'd go with the 5600x and think about upgrading after 2+ years. Why upgrade though - are you experiencing performance issues? Thats what I did, moved from a R7 2700 to a 5950x on an X470 board and I'll probably think about upgrading mid 2024.

If you're not experiencing performance issues you could stick with what you have and upgrade to a DDR5 supported platform altogether. But thats a 12-18 month wait.

Just figure out if its a hassle or not given availability of parts.
 
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i only get ~150fps after recent updates in valorant. Thats pretty garbage and i want to upgrade to a 240hz if i can get constant <240fps.
Im sitting on b350 vdh pro board so if i get new stuff im going to update it.
My only concern is that i buy new stuff now and in 12 months there is way better stuff for the same price
 
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JustPeterinanutshell said:
My only concern is that i buy new stuff now and in 12 months there is way better stuff for the same price
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That is always the case. If it were one or two months, yes. 12 months, that is a whole year of not getting your improved frame rates. If you play a lot, certainly worth it.

You could also just grab a Ryzen 3600X or 3700X, try overclocking your memory, and hold out.
 
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I mean Ryzen 5 5600x costs 20€ more guess its the better choice here. I really dont know what to do. Do you guys think Ryzen 5 5600x and DDR4 3600 CL16 ram can last atleast next 3 years without big problems?
 
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logainofhades said:
With GPU's being impossible to buy, at this point in time, it makes sense to get what you can, now, and have a CPU that won't need changed, once they can get a new GPU.
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I agree...it's why I run a 5600x at 1080p. Just pointing out the OP won't see any benefit while running the 970 @ 1080p. Lord knows my 5700xt can't tell the difference between a 5600x and 1600 either at that resolution.
 
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i mean isnt valorant and cs highly cpu optimize game? So my GTX 970 shouldnt bottleneck to hard in these games right? i need constant 240fps thats it.
i respect that i wont see a diff in other games but in these two?
 
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Op, with a b350 board you should be able to upgrade to a ryzen 3600. I did that on my asrock ab350 pro 4. It is definitely worth it. However, I’m actually seeing if I went used I could get a 3700x or 3800x for about 230-240 on eBay. It looks like the 3600 can sell for 140-200, so I’m considering actually selling that and getting the 8 core to max out my board until I do a full upgrade later.

I’m not saying that’s what you should do, but you could even go the root of getting a ryzen 3600, take the other money saved, sell your gtx 970, it looks like they are selling between 150-200 on eBay, then you could put the money you saved on a board towards a new gpu.

For example, some gtx 1080 cards are going for just over 400, or a 1070 looks like you can get it for about 350ish.

To add one more thing, it looks like your could sell your 1600 for 75. So if you sold your card and cpu and could upgrade to the 3600 and say a 1070 or 1080, that would be a nice upgrade. But even just getting one of those cards would probably really make a difference for you.

To give you an idea what’s possible though, currently I’m running a ryzen 5 3600 on my b350 board, with 16gb ddr4 3000, and I was fortunate and got a 6600xt close to msrp. So at 1080p, I’m pretty happy with it. Though the thought has gone through my head for a new board and a 5600x.
 
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The problem is. I dont think i will reach constant 240fps in valorant with the 3600 and 3000mhz ram?! For me the big question is, is it worth to get a new MB, CPU, RAM atm. or will the prices drop next months/year and will it be hard outperformed in ~2 years. And if i go for a new MB e.g. msi 550 tomahawk will there be a new socket in the new gen?
To clarify. I dont play games like cyberpunk or such things so i dont need a high end card. And i dont wanna buy a used 1070 or 1080 via ebay atm. tbh with all the mining going on haha.
 
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I understand. New gpu's are either impossible to find, or incredibly expensive. I have a new RX 6600xt, but I was fortunate to get that because I have a Microcenter nearby, and they got a stock of them and were limiting to 1 per household. Now they are all gone. I will say though that I've bought at least 4-5 used cards through eBay in the past, and I've always had good luck with them. Yeah, you may not get 240 fps, but upgrading would probably get you closer lol.
 
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It's not always about the cpu and gpu. The software can be a larger limitation that both sometimes.
According to the following video, the Source engine CS:GO runs off of, favors Ryzen:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDGWijdBDvM&list=WL&index=3

Valorant runs Unreal Engine, so likely favors Intel if the Fortnite slide is anything to go off of.

Looks like you gotta pick your poison if those are all you play... I dunno, I think I'd still go with the 5600X myself...
 
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The thing is though, either of those cpu's require a new board for you. Since you've already got a b350 board, you could probably update bios and get a 3600. It looks like the Ryzen 3600 is neck and neck with the 10400f. So I'd be tempted to do that, and either sit on the current gpu, or sell your current card and get a newer card.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaqUOofxXAc



Or you could get the 3600, sit on the current setup, get a new card if prices drop, and then get a newer gen board, cpu and ram as they work those out.

Edit, I was apparently typing my post when the other person posted.
 
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