Question Ryzen 7 9800X3D has very high temps at idle ?

[marektmv]

Hello, today i got prebuilt pc and as soon as i started i noticed very high idle temps. Right now i have 66°C temps.
cpu cooler is noctua nh-d15 chromax.black
mobo ASROCK B650E Taichi Lite
case fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint

 

[rgd1101]

sound like they didn't install it correctly

 

[dwd999]

Please tell us a little about ventilation in the case; how many fans on input and how many on exhaust. Also what speed or percentage are these fans operating at. You could try this simple test: if you remove the side covers (and top cover if removable) do the temps drop significantly? That would indicate a ventilation problem.

 

[marektmv]

Please tell us a little about ventilation in the case; how many fans on input and how many on exhaust. Also what speed or percentage are these fans operating at. You could try this simple test: if you remove the side covers (and top cover if removable) do the temps drop significantly? That would indicate a ventilation problem.

case is fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint .
cpu fan 800rpm, case fans 770
i tried each side, both, no change.

 

[steveb1976]

on the amd site it "recommends" liquid cooler (aio). so manbe you could invest in a 240mm or 360mm aio... if you want to cool the cpu properly.

 

[ötzi]

The Noctua NH-D15 (@ op; DH15 doesn't exists) is rated for 250W, more than capable to cool the 9800X3D. That being said I would look into what rgd1101 posted, looks like a bad cooler install cause it should be around 45-50 idle with your setup.

 

[marektmv]

The Noctua NH-D15 (@ op; DH15 doesn't exists) is rated for 250W, more than capable to cool the 9800X3D. That being said I would look into what rgd1101 posted, looks like a bad cooler install cause it should be around 45-50 idle with your setup.

Yes edited now, ty. What should i do? Just remove it and check thermal paste or what can be fault?

 

[dwd999]

case is fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint .
cpu fan 800rpm, case fans 770
i tried each side, both, no change.

What is the AUXFANIN1 entry, is that all 5 case cooling fans? Normally these would be set to increase in speed as the CPU fans increase in speed but I don't see that in the chart you posted. You may need to set a new fan curve in your bios; refer to the bios manual FAN-Tastic section if necessary. As another test before taking the cooler apart or returning the system you could manually set all of your fans to run at 100 percent maximum and see what temp readings that produces. If temps don't come down at 100 percent then a cooler mounting problem is more likely.

 

[marektmv]

What is the AUXFANIN1 entry, is that all 5 case cooling fans? Normally these would be set to increase in speed as the CPU fans increase in speed but I don't see that in the chart you posted. You may need to set a new fan curve in your bios; refer to the bios manual FAN-Tastic section if necessary. As another test before taking the cooler apart or returning the system you could manually set all of your fans to run at 100 percent maximum and see what temp readings that produces. If temps don't come down at 100 percent then a cooler mounting problem is more likely.

Yes auxfanin1 are all other fans. I tried running fans on max and no change.

 

[Kona45primo]

Contact the company who put it together and ask them if that's what it should be. Likely needs to be remounted if it's idling in the 60's. Although if it's not breaching 90 under a stress test it could be ok.

You can try it with the side of the case open to see if that effects anything. Also confirm PBO is off.

 

[steveb1976]

just a though ,but when you first installed it. was there thermal paste on the cooler. or did you apply thermal paste yourself? also did you take the "plastic sticker" of the cooler. (ive seen many people overlook that. and have high temps).
also its worth noting that some thermal pastes take time to settle.. so you will see hight temps on 1st boot. and for a while until it settles.

 

[marektmv]

just a though ,but when you first installed it. was there thermal paste on the cooler. or did you apply thermal paste yourself? also did you take the "plastic sticker" of the cooler. (ive seen many people overlook that. and have high temps).
also its worth noting that some thermal pastes take time to settle.. so you will see hight temps on 1st boot. and for a while until it settles.

This is how it looks.

https://imgur.com/a/fUUCHzt

 

[steveb1976]

This is how it looks.

https://imgur.com/a/fUUCHzt

did it look like that when you took the cooler off? or did you wipe paste away? as that looks like you did not have enough paste coverage .. and that the cooler was not making proper contact..

what paste do you have.( from the pic i'd guess at Artic MX4) you could try the the spreading method.. where you apply past to the cpu. and use something to "spread it evenly across the whole of the cpu ihs (the top of the cpu.). check the cooler part that sits on the cpu.. and make sure to wipe away any paste on it.. and make sure there is no plastic film on it.. .
then when you put the cooler to the cpu , make sure it makes good connection... when you turn on pc give it a few minutes to let the paste warm up and settle . and hopefully the temps will be low. somewhere in the low 40'c with that cooler.


also check the orientation of the fans on the cooler. they should be on saw direction. to pull air through them and the cooler.

 

[marektmv]

did it look like that when you took the cooler off? or did you wipe paste away? as that looks like you did not have enough paste coverage .. and that the cooler was not making proper contact..

what paste do you have.( from the pic i'd guess at Artic MX4) you could try the the spreading method.. where you apply past to the cpu. and use something to "spread it evenly across the whole of the cpu ihs (the top of the cpu.). check the cooler part that sits on the cpu.. and make sure to wipe away any paste on it.. and make sure there is no plastic film on it.. .
then when you put the cooler to the cpu , make sure it makes good connection... when you turn on pc give it a few minutes to let the paste warm up and settle . and hopefully the temps will be low. somewhere in the low 40'c with that cooler.


also check the orientation of the fans on the cooler. they should be on saw direction. to pull air through them and the cooler.

Yeah i just took The cooler off. I have some Thermal paste from noctua, can i use that?

 

[steveb1976]

yes if you have the "noctua paste" then that is better.. .

 

[marektmv]

Okay so I used noctua nt-h1, tried to do same as in The video but its still same. Very high temps in idle.

 

[dwd999]

Are you sure your cpu is at idle; it depends on what software you're running in the background. If you open up the Task Manager is your cpu truly running at 0 or 1 percent?

 

[beyondlogic]

case is fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint .
cpu fan 800rpm, case fans 770
i tried each side, both, no change.

non of the fans are exaust all are intake where is the heat suppose to go lol.

i would either remove 1 of the fans on the bottom and attach it to the rear of the case or buy the exact same fan and attach it to the rear.

 

[Phaaze88]

prebuilt pc

May want to take note of what applications and exes are running in the background...

Can't see the cooler's fans very well. Would like to be sure they're not facing the wrong direction - that does happen sometimes.

non of the fans are exaust all are intake where is the heat suppose to go lol.

It's a positive pressure case by Fractal's design; the heat exits out the rear and psu vent.
Didn't you see reviews? It works as is.

 

[OwiHH]

I had a similar problem with my AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-core processor (32 CPUs), ~4.5GHz

It idle at 45-55. Ryzens are built to run at high temperatures. When I open the browser I reach up to 70 degrees in a very short time.

If you are happy with your performance, try underloading the CPU. I reduced mine to 1.2V and set custom CPU fan/board fan curves in the BIOS. Now it runs smoothly when idle, but also works with CPU-hungry games.

 

[steveb1976]

you have to remember that your cpu is pulling about 120w.. your cooler can handle upto 230w (someone else said that in a previous reply before).. so the fact your cooler is keeping your cpu cool ,even if a little high for your liking. its within normal limits. if you have PBO enabled it will pull more power and temp will rise.. its why AMD themselves "RECOMMED" a liquid cooler for the cpu you have.. your noctua is doing a great job..,

you could do as "OwiHH" says and undervolt(you would have to ask him how he did it.. and maybe increase your fans curves and so they keep cpu cooler.
did you check the fans on the cooler. to see if they are the correct way around. (its easy to mistakenly put them the wrong way around.. they need to be pulling air through and out the back.).

 

[OwiHH]

you have to remember that your cpu is pulling about 120w.. your cooler can handle upto 230w (someone else said that in a previous reply before).. so the fact your cooler is keeping your cpu cool ,even if a little high for your liking. its within normal limits. if you have PBO enabled it will pull more power and temp will rise.. its why AMD themselves "RECOMMED" a liquid cooler for the cpu you have.. your noctua is doing a great job..,

you could do as "OwiHH" says and undervolt(you would have to ask him how he did it.. and maybe increase your fans curves and so they keep cpu cooler.
did you check the fans on the cooler. to see if they are the correct way around. (its easy to mistakenly put them the wrong way around.. they need to be pulling air through and out the back.).

You can use Ryzen Master Software orginal AMD. https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/ryzen-master.html

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVO_7VTFynY

 

[OwiHH]

You can do it right within the BIOS without the software if you a comfortable doing bios settings.
If your not into bios much i recommend ryzen master software cause it test the settings first and if it crashes it reset the settings.

i found this youtube for the 9800

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oD4ISZYjbA

 

[marektmv]

non of the fans are exaust all are intake where is the heat suppose to go lol.

i would either remove 1 of the fans on the bottom and attach it to the rear of the case or buy the exact same fan and attach it to the rear.

tried both and still same

May want to take note of what applications and exes are running in the background...


Can't see the cooler's fans very well. Would like to be sure they're not facing the wrong direction - that does happen sometimes.



It's a positive pressure case by Fractal's design; the heat exits out the rear and psu vent.
Didn't you see reviews? It works as is.

around 3% cpu usage, fans are from right to left

You can use Ryzen Master Software orginal AMD. https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/ryzen-master.html

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVO_7VTFynY

tried many options in bios as well, can go max -20, on -25 and more pc freeze


Ordered kraken 360, installed it and its still same. In games I am getting 80°C insted of +-60 like other people with same cpu.. Can it be something with that cpu?

 

[Phaaze88]

around 3% cpu usage

Not cpu usage, the actual applications and executables running, and/or running in the background, are going to cause temperature spikes. No cooler can keep up with how fast they can happen. If you're sitting there monitoring thermals, or leaving the software running in the background, it's going to look like something's wrong, when there isn't.

fans are from right to left

Noctua fans have arrows on their frame depicting the direction the fan spins, as well as which side the air exits from. I can't see the arrows in the image, 'cause it's too dark. I also can't see the 4 arms of the frame which usually indicate the backside of the fan.
So, with those points in mind, you can confirm that those fans are aimed to move air from right to left?