News Ryzen 7 9800X3D is selling like hotcakes at major German retailer — Mindfactory sold 8,700 CPUs in a single day

[Admin]

ComputerBase reports that the ryzen 7 9800X3D can now be purchased more readily overseas at a higher asking price.

Ryzen 7 9800X3D is selling like hotcakes at major German retailer — Mindfactory sold 8,700 CPUs in a single day : Read more

 

[valthuer]

Intel's incompetence is responsible for this situation.

 

[diabbb]

ComputerBase reports that the ryzen 7 9800X3D can now be purchased more readily overseas at a higher asking price.

Ryzen 7 9800X3D is selling like hotcakes at major German retailer — Mindfactory sold 8,700 CPUs in a single day : Read more

They did not sell 8700 CPUs in one day. They did sell 8700 CPUs up until January 1. Retranslate your source.

 

[spongiemaster]

Intel's incompetence is responsible for this situation.

In other news, Intel sells about 180,000 CPU's a day to Lenovo alone. This is why Intel's Client Computing Group generates more revenue and profits than the entire company of AMD. You think Intel cares that AMD sold 8700 CPU's over the course of 2 months (Article incorrectly says 1 day)to a German retailer?

https://www.ibselectronics.com/reso...e latest data,market share increased to 24.8%.

 

[valthuer]

In other news, Intel sells about 180,000 CPU's a day to Lenovo alone. This is why Intel's Client Computing Group generates more revenue and profits than the entire company of AMD. You think Intel cares that AMD sold 8700 CPU's over the course of 2 months (Article incorrectly says 1 day)to a German retailer?

https://www.ibselectronics.com/resources/news/lenovo-continues-to-lead-the-global-pc-market-share/#:~:text=According to the latest data,market share increased to 24.8%.

It's not just a German retailer: between Arrow Lake's poor gaming performance and 9800X3D's overwhelming success, it feels like the whole tide has shifted in the CPU front.

 

[-Fran-]

In other news, Intel sells about 180,000 CPU's a day to Lenovo alone. This is why Intel's Client Computing Group generates more revenue and profits than the entire company of AMD. You think Intel cares that AMD sold 8700 CPU's over the course of 2 months (Article incorrectly says 1 day)to a German retailer?

https://www.ibselectronics.com/resources/news/lenovo-continues-to-lead-the-global-pc-market-share/#:~:text=According to the latest data,market share increased to 24.8%.

Sorry to say, but your reply made me chuckle...

"My Mustang beat your EVO in the dragstrip..."
"Well, the EVOs run in rallies and even in the Dakar! who cares about quarter mile numbers!"

There was a touch of infantilism in the way you mentioned it that, well, I couldn't help but chuckle at.

But to keep this on topic: that's a very big strawman, since a normal person can't buy those CPUs from Lenovo/Dell/Acer/HP/etc directly, so this is strictly speaking on DYI and/or small businesses (you small local shops, perhaps) which can't buy directly from Intel. Plus, no one is saying this is making a dent on Intel's financials, but it's telling of how badly received the new CPUs are. AMD has been there with Bulldozer, so it's not like this is "new" in the CPU industry.

Regards.

 

[redgarl]

Intel's incompetence is responsible for this situation.

Not entirely, the 98800x3D is also a really good CPU.

 

[redgarl]

In other news, Intel sells about 180,000 CPU's a day to Lenovo alone. This is why Intel's Client Computing Group generates more revenue and profits than the entire company of AMD. You think Intel cares that AMD sold 8700 CPU's over the course of 2 months (Article incorrectly says 1 day)to a German retailer?

https://www.ibselectronics.com/resources/news/lenovo-continues-to-lead-the-global-pc-market-share/#:~:text=According to the latest data,market share increased to 24.8%.

Not true at all. Intel is in the red so don`t talk about revenue or profit.

 

[spongiemaster]

Sorry to say, but your reply made me chuckle...

"My Mustang beat your EVO in the dragstrip..."
"Well, the EVOs run in rallies and even in the Dakar! who cares about quarter mile numbers!"

There was a touch of infantilism in the way you mentioned it that, well, I couldn't help but chuckle at.

But to keep this on topic: that's a very big strawman, since a normal person can't buy those CPUs from Lenovo/Dell/Acer/HP/etc directly, so this is strictly speaking on DYI and/or small businesses (you small local shops, perhaps) which can't buy directly from Intel. Plus, no one is saying this is making a dent on Intel's financials, but it's telling of how badly received the new CPUs are. AMD has been there with Bulldozer, so it's not like this is "new" in the CPU industry.

Regards.

You missed the point. The response was to Intel's incompetence. Yea, they haven't been able to execute their roadmap for years. Almost all of it is the fault of the manufacturing arm of the company. That hasn't stopped them from controlling 2/3's of the x86 market. For some reason, enthusiast sites like this one can't stopped posting mindfactory articles which give a completely false view of the global CPU market. 8700 CPU's in two months? Who cares? Dell, the 3rd largest OEM sold more than that every 2 HOURS in q3 last year. And we all know, almost all of those are Intel CPU's. Intel doesn't care what individual retailers are doing, they're focused on the big picture.

 

[spongiemaster]

Not true at all. Intel is in the red so don`t talk about revenue or profit.

The ignorance is astonishing. If a company is losing money, it doesn't mean every individual segment of the company is losing money. I didn't say Intel profits. I said a specific department within the company.

 

[-Fran-]

You missed the point. The response was to Intel's incompetence. Yea, they haven't been able to execute their roadmap for years. Almost all of it is the fault of the manufacturing arm of the company. That hasn't stopped them from controlling 2/3's of the x86 market. For some reason, enthusiast sites like this one can't stopped posting mindfactory articles which give a completely false view of the global CPU market. 8700 CPU's in two months? Who cares? Dell, the 3rd largest OEM sold more than that every 2 HOURS in q3 last year. And we all know, almost all of those are Intel CPU's. Intel doesn't care what individual retailers are doing, they're focused on the big picture.

I can agree to AMD's snark being very dumb in the same vein as Pat's comments I've been mocking forever, so it's just a matter of waiting and see if it comes back to haunt them.

As for the rest: no, I didn't miss the point. This is DYI market, so bringing overall corporate sell/purchase is moot (a strawman). Dell, HP, etc have contracts to purchase in bulk and those are for years, so Intel's allocation to them has been set in stone long before ArrowLake was launched. Can you imagine them buying per-released CPU? LOL. Come on, you know better.

The point stands (somewhat): ArrowLake was a nasty surprise for OEMs. So much so that Dell got on stage with AMD. DELL.

Regards.

 

[spongiemaster]

I can agree to AMD's snark being very dumb in the same vein as Pat's comments I've been mocking forever, so it's just a matter of waiting and see if it comes back to haunt them.

As for the rest: no, I didn't miss the point. This is DYI market, so bringing overall corporate sell/purchase is moot (a strawman). Dell, HP, etc have contracts to purchase in bulk and those are for years, so Intel's allocation to them has been set in stone long before ArrowLake was launched. Can you imagine them buying per-released CPU? LOL. Come on, you know better.

The point stands (somewhat): ArrowLake was a nasty surprise for OEMs. So much so that Dell got on stage with AMD. DELL.

Regards.

No idea what the first paragraph is responding to. Next two indicate you still didn't get it. Not going to try and dumb it down any more for you. Also don't see what you think you have to gain by just making things up either. If you're going claim something, list a source.

 

[spongiemaster]

The sold number at the bottom of this screen capture is sales since release, not sale for that day. You took this article from another site (which you do on the regular, I can predict half the news articles on this site by going to this other site and seeing it there first) and still managed to screw up all the numbers. They correctly stated what the sales numbers showed in their article.

edit: site you're taking your news from doesn't allow linking to their pictures, so the link is removed.

Here is the product page
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/AMD-Ryzen-7-9800X3D-8x-4-70GHz-So-AM5-WOF_1595711.html

As of this post the number is 14160. Again, that's sales since launch, not since January 1st, like this article states.

 

[tamalero]

You missed the point. The response was to Intel's incompetence. Yea, they haven't been able to execute their roadmap for years. Almost all of it is the fault of the manufacturing arm of the company. That hasn't stopped them from controlling 2/3's of the x86 market. For some reason, enthusiast sites like this one can't stopped posting mindfactory articles which give a completely false view of the global CPU market. 8700 CPU's in two months? Who cares? Dell, the 3rd largest OEM sold more than that every 2 HOURS in q3 last year. And we all know, almost all of those are Intel CPU's. Intel doesn't care what individual retailers are doing, they're focused on the big picture.

Are you really applauding intel's almost monopolistic strangehold on the industry thanks to OEMs. Specially when they are very well known to use kickbacks and dirty contracts by intel to block AMD from gaining leadership?
The fact that EPYC is advancing so well DESPITE intel's tactics says a lot.
If there was truly free market in the cpu segment, with no dirty under the table contracts between intel and OEMs. Intel would have been bankrupt already and forced to restructure.

No idea what the first paragraph is responding to. Next two indicate you still didn't get it. Not going to try and dumb it down any more for you. Also don't see what you think you have to gain by just making things up either. If you're going claim something, list a source.

List your source as well then? you keep mentioning some pretty fixated numbers related to DELL.

Also its very well known that giant OEMs buy in bulks years in advance destite performance, because what matters to them is COST.

 

[aberkae]

Intel's incompetence is responsible for this situation.

It's the rear view mirror manufacturer that didn't make the warning sign big enough.

 

[msroadkill612]

In other news, Intel sells about 180,000 CPU's a day to Lenovo alone. This is why Intel's Client Computing Group generates more revenue and profits than the entire company of AMD. You think Intel cares that AMD sold 8700 CPU's over the course of 2 months (Article incorrectly says 1 day)to a German retailer?

https://www.ibselectronics.com/resources/news/lenovo-continues-to-lead-the-global-pc-market-share/#:~:text=According to the latest data,market share increased to 24.8%.

Cool. So a q3 2024 loss of $16.6 billion (their largest ever) can be ignored. They are competing just fine.

 

[spongiemaster]

Are you really applauding intel's almost monopolistic strangehold on the industry thanks to OEMs. Specially when they are very well known to use kickbacks and dirty contracts by intel to block AMD from gaining leadership?
The fact that EPYC is advancing so well DESPITE intel's tactics says a lot.
If there was truly free market in the cpu segment, with no dirty under the table contracts between intel and OEMs. Intel would have been bankrupt already and forced to restructure.


List your source as well then? you keep mentioning some pretty fixated numbers related to DELL.

Also its very well known that giant OEMs buy in bulks years in advance destite performance, because what matters to them is COST.

I'm not applauding anything, I'm saying not wasting their time competing in a market that doesn't make financial sense for them isn't incompetence. They're focusing on larger markets that financially matter to them. Good job living in 2005. While Intel certainly did some illegal things back then, rebates were not one of them and the courts said those were perfectly legal.

I don't know what you're asking for a source for. I gave a source for the only claim I made.

"It is very well known" is a statement someone uses when they have no evidence to back up their claim. Also, that's not even what the other poster said, so not sure what your point is.

 

[spongiemaster]

Cool. So a q3 2024 loss of $16.6 billion (their largest ever) can be ignored. They are competing just fine.

Like I said, more revenue and profits than all of AMD in q3. $7.3 billion revenue. $2.7 billion profits. Go compare that to AMD's q3 results. I'm tired of arguing with people that can't read. Last post on this.

 

[craigss]

Like I said, more revenue and profits than all of AMD in q3. $7.3 billion revenue. $2.7 billion profits. Go compare that to AMD's q3 results. I'm tired of arguing with people that can't read. Last post on this.

And the Margin?
Lets not cherry pick
Earnings per share?
Whilst Intel may be the big dog in the ring and yes as a company they are head and shoulders above AMD in size, that only makes it all the more worrying that currently AMD are outselling Intel to such a large extent in the real meat and potatoes with gravey or the corporate sector specifically servers, it has to start somewhere and in AMDs case it was 2017 and its snowballed from there, you also forget Intel was once the underdog in the CPU race and basically bribed and cheated there way into the lead even now when most products are listed alphabetically online look at laptops and the list always starts with Intel, you have to open the sector selection to even see AMD serious back handers are still going on via some kickbacks to maintain this however even Intel doesnt have a bottomless money pit and investors are getting itchy wallets,
For the record I personally hate Intel as a CPU maker but as a consumer i want them to be at least competitive to maintain progression between the two

 

[tamalero]

And the Margin?
Lets not cherry pick
Earnings per share?
Whilst Intel may be the big dog in the ring and yes as a company they are head and shoulders above AMD in size, that only makes it all the more worrying that currently AMD are outselling Intel to such a large extent in the real meat and potatoes with gravey or the corporate sector specifically servers, it has to start somewhere and in AMDs case it was 2017 and its snowballed from there, you also forget Intel was once the underdog in the CPU race and basically bribed and cheated there way into the lead even now when most products are listed alphabetically online look at laptops and the list always starts with Intel, you have to open the sector selection to even see AMD serious back handers are still going on via some kickbacks to maintain this however even Intel doesnt have a bottomless money pit and investors are getting itchy wallets,
For the record I personally hate Intel as a CPU maker but as a consumer i want them to be at least competitive to maintain progression between the two

Lets not forget that intel also sells many other products. From network cards, motherboards, chipsets, now graphic cards..etc.. its not only cpus and its foundries and enterprise services.
If they didnt have all that. The company would have been wiped already.

 

[KyaraM]

First of all, that's not what the number says. Second, and I said this before, Mindfactory is the BIGGEST AMD reseller in Germany. To the point they don't even feature Intel products on their mainpage. No bundles, no mainboards, no nothing, especially compared to AMD. For years now. They didn't even feature Alder Lake on the main page, which was both better than the featured Ryzen 5000 chips and a really decent generation for Intel as a whole. It's NOT the biggest parts retailer in Germany, btw; that would be Alternate.

Yes, I know it's more or less the only website posting sales numbers at all... which makes it even more important to correctly interprete them, which you repeatedly didn't. So please either learn what you are actually posting about, or just stop the posting.