News Ryzen 7000 I/O Die Cracks Into Five Tiny Chiplets During Experiment

[-Fran-]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuVpwB1s8iU


Even Noctua is doing/promoting it now. The IHS is stupid the way it was designed for Ryzen 7K. You can disagree and you'll be wrong.

AMD needs to take notice.

Regards.

 

[bit_user]

Even Noctua is doing/promoting it now. The IHS is stupid the way it was designed for Ryzen 7K. You can disagree and you'll be wrong.

You're mischaracterizing my position. I never defended their IHS design or rejected the idea of direct-die cooling Ryzen 7000 CPUs. I merely objected to the suggestion that AMD should sell them that way.

If AMD would do anything about this situation, it would be to partner with leading heatsink & waterblock makers to do a redesign of their IHS. It would break their much-vaunted compatibility with AM4 coolers, but at least their ecosystem partners would have a new round of products ready for customers to use.

I've said it before: what I wish AMD would do is either:

1. Replace their IHS with a vapor chamber.
2. Transform their package into a vapor chamber.

The more I think about #2, the less sure I am that it would be viable, since you would likely have the working fluid boiling off before it even reached the center of the chiplets, which could lead to extreme thermal stress. So, I guess #1 is the best one could do.

I will agree with you about one thing: AMD could make a special version of their CPUs with a perfectly flat, polished IHS (preferably the new design I mentioned above), intended for use with premium heatsinks and waterblocks that have a similarly flat and polished surface. Maybe all their X-series should just come that way.

 

[TerryLaze]

Even Noctua is doing/promoting it now. The IHS is stupid the way it was designed for Ryzen 7K. You can disagree and you'll be wrong.

AMD needs to take notice.

Regards.

The target market for AMD isn't overclockers.
You might disagree but you'd be wrong.

The percentage of people even looking at temps ever is very small.
They only do it if they start having issues with their system.

The big IHS soaks up a lot of heat and gives cheaper cooling more time to take it away. It works well enough for the default settings and the CPU is already expensive enough, making it even more expensive with a better IHS that won't make any difference to most people doesn't make much sense.

 

[-Fran-]

The target market for AMD isn't overclockers.
You might disagree but you'd be wrong.

The percentage of people even looking at temps ever is very small.
They only do it if they start having issues with their system.

The big IHS soaks up a lot of heat and gives cheaper cooling more time to take it away. It works well enough for the default settings and the CPU is already expensive enough, making it even more expensive with a better IHS that won't make any difference to most people doesn't make much sense.

Oh, Terry. Never change.

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EDIT: Forgot the obvious one!

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

Regards.

 

[TerryLaze]

Oh, Terry. Never change.

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EDIT: Forgot the obvious one!

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master

Regards.

Are these links supposed to proof, or show, something?!


Also right at the top of your first link:
"* Overclocking AMD processors, including without limitation, altering clock frequencies / multipliers or memory timing / voltage, to operate beyond their stock specifications will void any applicable AMD product warranty, even when such overclocking is enabled via AMD hardware and/or software. This may also void warranties offered by the system manufacturer or retailer. Users assume all risks and liabilities that may arise out of overclocking AMD processors, including, without limitation, failure of or damage to hardware, reduced system performance and/or data loss, corruption, or vulnerability. GD-106"

Footnotes of your second link:
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FOOTNOTES

1. AMD’s product warranty does not cover damages caused by overclocking, even when overclocking is enabled via AMD hardware and/or software. GD-26."